Minky Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 7 hours ago, B725 said: I have emailed BASC to see if the can help identify the gun. Any news yet.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Minky said: Any news yet.? No nothing yet from BASC I've just got back from collecting my 725 as it started failing to fire the second shot turned out to be a broken spring but he replaced both springs with the updated spring's and replaced the inertia block anyhow he has a mate who has worked for Browning for a long time and will give him the serial number to see if he can trace it back. I took the gun to show him and he's fairly confident it's a Miroku but doesn't know what model he did wonder if it may have been a custom built one from Miroku. This for me is fascinating it has been reproofed at some point evey time we answer a question another comes up all adding to the history. I have considered asking the feo if he could trace it back to the original owner but that would only be a last resort. Edited August 17, 2022 by B725 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, B725 said: I have considered asking the feo if he could trace it back to the original owner but that would only be a last resort. I asked my local firearms department if they could help me trace my grandfather's guns, and the answer came back that they don't keep what would otherwise be known as legacy systems. So if its of any age, its unlikely they could help - unless I have been 'misinformed' by them. Very sad, as would have loved to have traced my grandfather's Churchill and known exactly what type of semi automatic pistol he kept in the tin next to his bed... Edited August 17, 2022 by PeterHenry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I've returned the gun because of the 72 hour rule and a deal has been done and he is giving me his other gun so I ended up with 2 two gun's 400 odd cartridges and the gun cabinet for next to nothing as he just wanted them gone just one previso would I take him clay shooting once or twice if he is up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, B725 said: I've returned the gun because of the 72 hour rule and a deal has been done and he is giving me his other gun so I ended up with 2 two gun's 400 odd cartridges and the gun cabinet for next to nothing as he just wanted them gone just one previso would I take him clay shooting once or twice if he is up to it. To be fair with the cost of cartridges and clays, that could end up costing a fortune That's a really lovely arrangement by the way, and he can still love his guns when he wants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcw65 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Ive got catalogues with guns from the ORE upto the 3800 and cant find one like it Edited August 18, 2022 by mcw65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Are you sure it hasn't been restocked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, mcw65 said: Ive got catalogues with guns from the ORE upto the 3800 and cant find one like it From the picture it is a T111 (S) but this one had the top rib removed and the stock altered for the original owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, B725 said: From the picture it is a T111 (S) but this one had the top rib removed and the stock altered for the original owner. Is that a step where I have put an arrow? As the picture of the T lll S as none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Sorry I can't remember I will let you know when I collect the gun and bring it back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 It looks like an aftermarket customisation to me . Action filed, re shaped and engraved as well as total rework of the woodwork.probably re proofed at that point .Looks like a basic 800 used to start. Just the same as process as all of the custom B25 Brownings that start life as A1 Grade. Hth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Well I am now in the possession of both guns does anyone fancy trying to work out what the second one is I will say what later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) John Powell? Made by A&S in Italy? Edited August 22, 2022 by button Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 No sorry but it is Italian On 18/08/2022 at 17:19, old'un said: Is that a step where I have put an arrow? As the picture of the T lll S as none. There is probably no more than 1mm of step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
button Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 I like that, really like the scalloped back action Smart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 IAB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted August 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Gordon R said: IAB ? It is indeed, it says connoisseur game on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 Whilst looking at another gun, I picked up an IAB Tiger skeet gun a couple of weeks ago. Seemed very well put together and nicely balanced. I was impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reindeer Posted August 22, 2022 Report Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Looking at the step that creates the side panels and the way the quarter round barrel flanges (I don’t know if that is the correct word to describe them) have been partially flattened to meet the reshaped action and the work done to the fore end iron and wood, I am fairly sure this is not a stand alone model on special order but an 800 or later model, recreated by Miroke themselves or by a compentent gunsmith. I have seen similar ‘upgrade’ work done to Browning 325 models. Edited August 22, 2022 by reindeer Noticed more details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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