bruno22rf Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Just placed a holding deposit on a gun advertised as a Nikko Shadow Indy but ,on closer inspection, I'm not sure it's an Indy. It's on a well known "trader" site for sale in Glasgow for £225 (not sure if I'm allowed to name the site?) but it doesn't appear to have the forend vents, the engraving looks different to the Indy pics I've seen and the chequering looks wrong? I'm beginning to think that it's a Shadow Trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 All of them I had over the years had the vents, mine were all skeet guns. I suspect the sporters were without the vents on the forends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 I’m no expert but I was of the opinion that only the Shadow Indy had the three fore-end vents and multiple lines in the vent ribs and diamond checkering. 🤷♂️ You could ask the seller? I would have thought ANY Shadow Indy was worth more than 225 quid unless it’s as rough as a badgers doodah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Scully said: I’m no expert but I was of the opinion that only the Shadow Indy had the three fore-end vents and multiple lines in the vent ribs and diamond checkering. 🤷♂️ You could ask the seller? I would have thought ANY Shadow Indy was worth more than 225 quid unless it’s as rough as a badgers doodah. Yes, my thinking as well, I will ring him Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow243 Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 it looks the same as the others high rib no mention of what the gun is choked at the other ones that say they are trap guns don't have the high rib evry other trap gun i have seen have a high and wide rib most gun shops can't tell the difference unless it's marked on the guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 My mate has still got his Shadow indy skeet. It has the fore -end vents and wide rib. It is in good condition but only worth about £250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 All Google photos of the Indy have the forend vents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, samboy said: My mate has still got his Shadow indy skeet. It has the fore -end vents and wide rib. It is in good condition but only worth about £250. Well there you go then, what do I know? Lot of quality gun for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Made in same factory as Winchester 101 series - very, very similar gun, with better wood and engraving, but worth half of the Winchester. Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gordon R said: Made in same factory as Winchester 101 series - very, very similar gun, with better wood and engraving, but worth half of the Winchester. Odd. Odd indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 It was the first gun i fired that got me into clay shooting 41 years ago. If i remember rightly there was a problem with the wide rib coming loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, samboy said: It was the first gun i fired that got me into clay shooting 41 years ago. If i remember rightly there was a problem with the wide rib coming loose. It was a floating rib and aluminium, needed careful looking after and many got damaged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) I had one many years ago, that had a vented forend. Yes, there were occasional problems with the top rib, mainly down to owner neglect. Make sure you check the vented centre rib well, also hang the barrels on your finger (from the hook) then flick them with forefinger of your other hand. IF9 they make a dull ring, be careful. I was shooting in a DTL competition in Ireland and the next gun to me had a Shadow Indy which blew a hole in the barrel, half way through the Comp. It had rusted in the vented centre rib. I now soak the centre rib with oil on all guns that come into my possession. To the best of my knowledge the ' Indy' all had the wide aluminum vented rib. There was a Shadow 7 (which I also had) which had a conventional rib, but was still a Trap gun. Edited October 23, 2022 by Westley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Thanks for the comments guy's, looks to me like it's been miss advertised and is actually a Shadow Trap. Ah well,the search for an Indy continues 🙁. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Spoke to the dealer first thing, genuine mistake and happy to cancel the order. On the hunt now for a Shadow Indy Trap, be nice to find one that's had the chokes opened out but I guess that unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 24/10/2022 at 11:02, bruno22rf said: Spoke to the dealer first thing, genuine mistake and happy to cancel the order. On the hunt now for a Shadow Indy Trap, be nice to find one that's had the chokes opened out but I guess that unlikely. Good for him, but disappointing for you no doubt. Had a bit of a Google and found a very nice looking Shadow Indy skeet gun. Sorely tempted. Good luck and let’s have some pics when you find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Scully said: Good for him, but disappointing for you no doubt. Had a bit of a Google and found a very nice looking Shadow Indy skeet gun. Sorely tempted. Good luck and let’s have some pics when you find one. Thanks Scully, hopefully picking up a mint example tomorrow but it's 3 times what I was initially going to pay - the Wifes buying it for me so happy days. If you are looking for one Melbourne Guns have one (they didn't even realise it is an Indy) or I can give you the number of a guy who has a really nice one, private sale, for £450. Edited October 27, 2022 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Thanks Scully, hopefully picking up a mint example tomorrow but it's 3 times what I was initially going to pay - the Wifes buying it for me so happy days. If you are looking for one Melbourne Guns have one (they didn't even realise it is an Indy) or I can give you the number of a guy who has a really nice one, private sale, for £450. Sounds good. Don’t forget to put up plenty of pcs when you get it. 👍 Sent pictures of the skeet model to mate who’s now badgering me to get it! Have always fancied a dedicated skeet gun if just for the Westlands layout. Funny how our fancies change; I once turned down the offer of a sleeper of a 101 because it was choked skeet and skeet. 🤷♂️ Have fun. Edited October 28, 2022 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 9 hours ago, bruno22rf said: Melbourne Guns have one (they didn't even realise it is an Indy) That guy doesn’t realise a heck of a lot about guns! The shop is only about 17 miles from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 23/10/2022 at 10:21, bruno22rf said: Just placed a holding deposit on a gun advertised as a Nikko Shadow Indy but ,on closer inspection, I'm not sure it's an Indy. It's on a well known "trader" site for sale in Glasgow for £225 (not sure if I'm allowed to name the site?) but it doesn't appear to have the forend vents, the engraving looks different to the Indy pics I've seen and the chequering looks wrong? I'm beginning to think that it's a Shadow Trap. Good price for an aging obsolete gun . Just bear in mind if anything breaks other than a striker or coil spring then it could be costly repair .Dont believe anything anyone tells you that you " can get bits from the US " or that is the same gun as the similarly obsolete Winchester and you can can get bits for them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 All set to leave this morning, up at 6 got everything sorted then realised that my cert is still in Scotland with the first dealer 🤨. Rang the dealer I'm getting the gun from , Cotswold Shooting Co, and left a holding deposit so it's secure. Spoke to a different chap today and he assures me the gun has rarely been out of the cabinet and is mint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, bruno22rf said: All set to leave this morning, up at 6 got everything sorted then realised that my cert is still in Scotland with the first dealer 🤨. Rang the dealer I'm getting the gun from , Cotswold Shooting Co, and left a holding deposit so it's secure. Spoke to a different chap today and he assures me the gun has rarely been out of the cabinet and is mint. Pictures are a must. 👍 5 hours ago, Gunman said: Good price for an aging obsolete gun . Just bear in mind if anything breaks other than a striker or coil spring then it could be costly repair .Dont believe anything anyone tells you that you " can get bits from the US " or that is the same gun as the similarly obsolete Winchester and you can can get bits for them . I don’t want to deflect from this thread. But you can get bits for the Winchester 101. I got an ejector for a mates Grand European off this very forum. Not that it proves anything, but As far as I’m aware there are Shadow Indy actions which are in fact Winchester 101 actions. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Well, she's finally here,Postie banging on my door at 7 this morning with my cert back from Scotland, 2 1/2 hour trip and she's mine. Pictures dont do the condition justice, few cabinet marks but otherwise perfect, it's still tight to open after 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Looks very good, better than the one I had in the late 80's. I used mine a lot until a friend wanted to buy it even though the ejectors were over riding the empties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Very nice. Have fun. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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