Batler Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Hi all, I'm in the market for a new gun and I'm thinking of going to Premier guns at Doveridge. Has anyone got any experience of their gun fitting services? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 It looks like Matt has moved on from there, he has a new channel working for somewhere else. what makes you consider them? Lowest price? Closeness? Recommendation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batler Posted August 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Well I wanted to have an afternoon around the ground and thought I could tie in the two. I also heard they have a lot of left handed guns. I wouldn't want to travel too much further than that really as I'm in Manchester. Quite like the idea of trying a few as I've been to plenty of gun shops and seen guns but I have no idea how they are when shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Kelbrook would be nearer.might be worth a look, Michael meggison(the owner),is spot on with fitting too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) Or Malmo Guns at Lancaster Edited August 5, 2023 by Yellow Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 As some one who was fitting guns and doing alterations for many many years please take note. So dont be misled You can not fit a gun to a person who can not shoot . A novice who has to learn to shoot. As long as the basic parameters are met , length , cast and drop , and you have been taught to stand and mount correctly and consistantly , do not waste money or time on fitting . In 6 months or( and maybe 500/ 1000 cartridges) , when you can do all of these things it may be worth your while to consult a gun fitter esspesially if you have consistent problems . I must dig out my "golden rules" on this and re post . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 Golden rule: never let a gun shop that is selling you a gun tell you that it fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 8, 2023 Report Share Posted August 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, Gunman said: You can not fit a gun to a person who can not shoot . A novice who has to learn to shoot. This. Try as many different guns as possible, have a few lessons if you can afford it, then buy the gun you like best ( usually the one you shot best with ) and THEN learn to shoot with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 16 hours ago, London Best said: Golden rule: never let a gun shop that is selling you a gun tell you that it fits. Funny story..... I went to a shop not close to me and tried to buy a Beretta, and the shop told me it absolutely did not fit. I don't know if it was a genuine comment, or if they wanted to upsell me. As a verrrrrry novice shooter, I didn't know who this goliath of a man was at that time, but he came over and said "can I have a look? Point it at me then, no need to be shy." in a very calming and reassuring voice. He told me to move my nose in towards the stock, and then magically I was looking down the rib properly. I didn't buy the gun in the end as I didn't like how I was spoken to overall, but many thanks to a Mr B. Husthwaite for the help to mount better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 1 hour ago, HantsRob said: Funny story..... I went to a shop not close to me and tried to buy a Beretta, and the shop told me it absolutely did not fit. I don't know if it was a genuine comment, or if they wanted to upsell me. As a verrrrrry novice shooter, I didn't know who this goliath of a man was at that time, but he came over and said "can I have a look? Point it at me then, no need to be shy." in a very calming and reassuring voice. He told me to move my nose in towards the stock, and then magically I was looking down the rib properly. I didn't buy the gun in the end as I didn't like how I was spoken to overall, but many thanks to a Mr B. Husthwaite for the help to mount better! As our Gunman says above, you cannot fit a gun for someone who cannot shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) Is the O.P a complete novice? I don't see that started But if he is then lessons are a must, I wish I'd had them at the start and not before I have bad habits I can't stop unless I'm really focused. try guns that feel right and if you can shot them, maybe 50 clays each gun to really get a feeling. But personally I always have and adjustable stock/comb , with readily available stock extension options. Weight of the gun and balance, grip and forend feel are very important for me. So a gun that feels correct is as important as one that fits correct. And consider all guns,not just the big names Zoli, Salvinelli are two examples of underated guns that punch above their price point and will last longer than you, and can be bought for moderate cost used Edited August 9, 2023 by retromlc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batler Posted August 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 Thanks for the replies so far, no I'm not a complete novice. Been shooting for around 4 years and had my own gun for around 2. Obviously I could always be better but my current gun is no good for me so is reducing how much I want to shoot (too light, bruised cheek etc) I'm a tricky customer because I have one arm so getting a good fit is quite important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted August 9, 2023 Report Share Posted August 9, 2023 (edited) He doesn't have guns for you to try but speak with Brian at bk webster.he is a superb gunsmith and gun fitter.he can also modify pretty much any gun,if needed. Edited August 9, 2023 by Mr grumpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 hours ago, London Best said: As our Gunman says above, you cannot fit a gun for someone who cannot shoot. Completely agree. I went for a gunfit after 2 years of shooting and I thought I was a fairly decent shooter, and they in essence said they couldn't help much until i was more consistent. Once I got over the knock to my pride I had more practical advice on mounting, understanding my gun more, and actually my gun pretty much fitted me anyway and it was me that was the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 Am I so old as to remember a time when gunshops , thats gunshops not shops that sell guns , would spend time with a new customer making recommendations as to what you needed , which may not be what you asked for or thought you need ,would advise on fit , mount /stance etc. ? Even making alterations as part of the sale .Day's when gunshops offered service , not discounts and trying to sell you all the things a new shooter doesn't need . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunman said: Am I so old as to remember a time when gunshops , thats gunshops not shops that sell guns , would spend time with a new customer making recommendations as to what you needed , which may not be what you asked for or thought you need ,would advise on fit , mount /stance etc. ? Even making alterations as part of the sale .Day's when gunshops offered service , not discounts and trying to sell you all the things a new shooter doesn't need . These shops of which you speak would likely have started out years before as practical gunsmiths or even gunmakers. The average gun shop today is just a gun dealer, who might as well be selling cars, or shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 LB, I will agree as a principle. But..... Avalon Mendip - mediocre service trying to upsell and weren't interested unless I proverbially flashed the cash. Avalon Street - I went in saying I had no licence, but wanted to see what was in my price range. The gent spent an hour talking me through options, what he felt was "too much gun" and importantly *why*, and helped with some holding, stance, feet etc. Nothing was too much trouble, and he would have given me more time if I wanted. I appreciate it's the same business, but you can guess where I buy bits and bobs from out of the two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 To the op sorry have no experience with the business you mentioned however asking the gun fitter if he’s tied in with a good craftsman that can make the alterations is a good start as it’s rare nowadays to find someone who does both Please bear in mind that there are limits on how much you can alter a stock especially one that has a bolt through the stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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