steve_b_wales Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Has anyone heard or the above oil for protecting firearms? I've read up on it and it appears to be good. At the moment, my rifles/shotguns have a thin coat of Ballistol on them, but it has a very strong smell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Sorry not heard of it but from my experience Ballistol is perhaps not the best rust proofer. ACF 50 beats the lot but it is not a lubricant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK421 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) I use it and find it fit for purpose. Smell isn’t too bad either. Is it any better than VP90? No idea. But it works well for what it’s designed to doing, military spec as well so safe on rifles etc. Isn’t cheap though. Edited November 21, 2023 by TK421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 All these fancy oils are totally unnecessary. All my guns are rust free with simple cheap oil such as 3 in 1 from hardware stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Silicon spray is very good, it will waterproof metal, wood and cloth and will not stain wood like oil will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow white Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 I used a 30 year old oily rag just quick wipe over dun till next outing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, old'un said: Silicon spray is very good, it will waterproof metal, wood and cloth and will not stain wood like oil will. But does NOT lubricate metal to metal. 10 minutes ago, snow white said: I used a 30 year old oily rag just quick wipe over dun till next outing Yup, that’s the way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 I use it - it makes cleaning barrels untill spotless very easy compared to using 009. Its also not supposed to damage wood, which is a bonus - as is the fact that I can get it on my hands and they don't end up red raw. I don't tend to follow the instructions on the can / use their special felt pads - just a squirt down each end of the barrel, scrub with a brass brush, and leave for 40 minutes before using kitchen roll on a jag until clean - which is no time at all compared to some other cleaning products I've used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, London Best said: But does NOT lubricate metal to metal. Well I presume Steve was looking for something to protect the outside of the gun from water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK421 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PeterHenry said: I use it - it makes cleaning barrels untill spotless very easy compared to using 009. Its also not supposed to damage wood, which is a bonus - as is the fact that I can get it on my hands and they don't end up red raw. I don't tend to follow the instructions on the can / use their special felt pads - just a squirt down each end of the barrel, scrub with a brass brush, and leave for 40 minutes before using kitchen roll on a jag until clean - which is no time at all compared to some other cleaning products I've used. I mainly use it after a wet shoot, spray quick wipe down, another spray then into a dry sling in the car ready for clean down once home. Then a final light wipe over before going into the safe, that way I already have a protective coating before my next shoot. Edited November 21, 2023 by TK421 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHenry Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, TK421 said: I mainly use it after a wet shoot, spray quick wipe down, another spray then into a dry sling in the car ready for clean down once home. Then a final light wipe over before going into the safe, that way I already have a protective coating before my next shoot. 👍 I usually break my gun down after a day's shooting and put it in a motor case of some type with a sachet of VP90 in. Then, if its a 'nice' gun, it gets cleaned before being put away in the cabinet that has another sachet of VP90 in. If it's my over and under with chrome lined bores, it gets put away in the same cabinet and cleaned at the end of each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, London Best said: All these fancy oils are totally unnecessary. All my guns are rust free with simple cheap oil such as 3 in 1 from hardware stores. 👍 Agree 3in1 is all you need . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, dipper said: 👍 Agree 3in1 is all you need . To be honest, I'm using a thin coat of WD40 although most of my rifles are in protective sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said: To be honest, I'm using a thin coat of WD40 although most of my rifles are in protective sleeves. Be careful! WD40 will remove some types of blueing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 I live in a draughty old barn and all I use to treat mine is a quick spray/wipe down with WD40 if wet, clean with Napier or similar, and the occasional VP90 sachet in the cabinets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO8 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Haven't heard of that but Silicon spray will give you a decent result . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, London Best said: All these fancy oils are totally unnecessary. All my guns are rust free with simple cheap oil such as 3 in 1 from hardware stores. True! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK421 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Scully said: I live in a draughty old barn and all I use to treat mine is a quick spray/wipe down with WD40 if wet, clean with Napier or similar, and the occasional VP90 sachet in the cabinets. It’s pretty much the same thing tbf, except branded for guns with a ‘made in Germany’ price tag. In all fairness it lasts for ages, isn’t to greasy either and doesn’t stink to high heaven, so Happy to have a bottle kicking about. it also depends on the gun you’re using it on and what value you put on that gun. My main guns chamber and barrels aren’t chrome lined so a little extra cars is needed especially when and after shooting in a downpour, which is common in the UK. My other guns need not as much attention. I always have some VP90 products and use sachets in the safe. Horses for courses. you can of course use any old mineral oil, or whatever takes your fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, TK421 said: It’s pretty much the same thing tbf, except branded for guns with a ‘made in Germany’ price tag. In all fairness it lasts for ages, isn’t to greasy either and doesn’t stink to high heaven, so Happy to have a bottle kicking about. it also depends on the gun you’re using it on and what value you put on that gun. My main guns chamber and barrels aren’t chrome lined so a little extra cars is needed especially when and after shooting in a downpour, which is common in the UK. My other guns need not as much attention. I always have some VP90 products and use sachets in the safe. Horses for courses. you can of course use any old mineral oil, or whatever takes your fancy. I also have these in all my cabinets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TK421 said: It’s pretty much the same thing tbf, except branded for guns with a ‘made in Germany’ price tag. In all fairness it lasts for ages, isn’t to greasy either and doesn’t stink to high heaven, so Happy to have a bottle kicking about. it also depends on the gun you’re using it on and what value you put on that gun. My main guns chamber and barrels aren’t chrome lined so a little extra cars is needed especially when and after shooting in a downpour, which is common in the UK. My other guns need not as much attention. I always have some VP90 products and use sachets in the safe. Horses for courses. you can of course use any old mineral oil, or whatever takes your fancy. Quite. I won’t go out of my way to buy a certain brand, I simply buy what’s available or convenient. I have aerosol and wipes of Ballistol, Phillips gun oil, and WD equivalent by Wurth we used to use at work plus a few others. I also sometimes simply spray an old rag and leave that in the cabinets. None of my guns have ever come to any harm due to not buying a specific brand. Mineral oil however, shouldn’t be allowed to get onto or ‘into’ woodwork; I’ve seen a very nice stock ruined by mineral oil. Edited November 21, 2023 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK421 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Scully said: Mineral oil however, shouldn’t be allowed to get onto or ‘into’ woodwork; I’ve seen a very nice stock ruined by mineral oil. Oh yes, caution is needed. Only on the metal bits. then there are those that don’t even clean their guns period. I’ve always been a fan of the Napier VP90 kit. Can always get it at a reasonable price. The gun cleaner also has good pressure in the 750ml can to give everything a good blast. For the cost and how long they last, especially when compared to the rest of the ‘other’ shooting costs, they almost pale into insignificance really. to each his own and all part of the making of the rich tapestry of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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