Royal Greener Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 I'm looking for information and loading data For my punt gun. Specifically the type brand and grain to use. It's a 1.5 inch falling block Clayton style punt gun. 9ft barrel 105 lbs, percussion cap gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 Nice looking gun welcome to the forum 😊😂 lot more knowledgeable about this stuff than me however a coarse grain black powder and suitable shot (bismuth probably) should do the job any proof marks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Greener Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 Looking for the brand and type of of powder thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 (edited) You could try giving South Worcester shooting ground a ring. The owner has a punt gun too. And is very knowledgeable on all things shooting. . I know some years ago he was experimenting with different loads etc for his own gun. Also is involved with the perrins owners . And of course runs the shooting ground. Contact details via the website. Probably an email on there too . Jasper. Edited March 2 by jasper682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Greener Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Talk to Peter Starley at blackpowder.co.uk. Non-toxic shot : claygame.co.uk. Oakum wadding : classic-marine.co.uk. Do a bit of reading e.g. "Wildfowling" by Christopher Dalgety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 W0W that's going to be one heck of an expensive bang. The black p0wder is going to be £10 not counting the shot. Also why suggest Bismuth? The gun will only ever be shot as a demo so why not lead? I load a lot of 12g black powder and a quarter pound of the stuff going off is frightening. Good luck with it I would love to be there for a firing. Grease monkey on this forum has one and shoots it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 "The gun will only ever be shot as a demo......" I really hope not. These things were designed and built to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Whoops my mistake. I was sure they were illegal to shoot at live quarry in the uk . Over a pound of Bismuth and £10 worth of black is going to make those ducks expensive eating. I did ask at my local clay ground, which has lakes, if a friend of mine could shoot his punt gun there and the owner nearly had a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I quite understand DUNKS. However compared to forty or fifty quid for a reared pheasant ? The real point is that once these old ways to make a living have gone they will be gone forever : eel picking, butt dragging, dredging oysters under sail, catching birds with a bat-fowling net, working a decoy, etc. Most of what you can find on the internet about big guns and their use is nonsense as folk do not realise it is a difficult and tedious stalking operation. Taking the shot if successful is just a small part of what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Could not agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) I don't know where you are but if you are near the south coast ( Brighton), Try here http://www.gun-powder.co.uk/blackpowder.html They sell BP at £14-99 for 500g of coarse . Edited March 3 by Andy H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Andy H said: I don't know where you are but if you are near the south coast ( Brighton), Try here http://www.gun-powder.co.uk/blackpowder.html They sell BP at £14-99 for 500g of coarse . Thats an amazing price Mr Krank wants £45 for 500g Just now, DUNKS said: Thats an amazing price Mr Krank wants £45 for 500g Edited March 3 by DUNKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, DUNKS said: Thats an amazing price Mr Krank wants £45 for 500ml Yes and that is not Swiss It's a rebranded pyro powder they sell under the Krank name , It makes it only £10-00 a kg cheaper than the top grade Swiss BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Greener Posted March 3 Author Report Share Posted March 3 8 hours ago, Pushandpull said: Talk to Peter Starley at blackpowder.co.uk. Non-toxic shot : claygame.co.uk. Oakum wadding : classic-marine.co.uk. Do a bit of reading e.g. "Wildfowling" by Christopher Dalgety. Thank you... I have tons of bismuth and ITX. We don't have oakum here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 I've been watching the latest DVD by Chris Green (Wildfowling) and he went out with a friend who was using a punt gun. His friend stated that with 36oz of shot, it cost £70 a go to fire it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Royal Greener said: Thank you... I have tons of bismuth and ITX. We don't have oakum here... use plumbers hemp tow, hemp pipe thread sealer soaked in wax oil same stuff and a lot cheaper ! Edited March 3 by dainty duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Contact William Wykes at Wigtown Wildfowlers he is a punt gunner and has a lot of knowledge incl steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy baxendale Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I use various coarse grain powders in mine i wouldnt worry too much about exactly which one. Drop me a PM and i'll send you some excerts about powder/ shot charge for guns. I use wads cut from hard wool not oakum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty duck Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 On 03/03/2024 at 18:04, dainty duck said: use plumbers hemp tow, hemp pipe thread sealer soaked in wax oil same stuff and a lot cheaper ! just had a look and its around £15 for a 100g , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Is/Are there situations where there are numbers of duck available to actually shoot at.? Back like in victorian times..? I personally don't think that I have ever seen water with the amount of duck roosting other than protected wildlife lakes to make shooting a weapon such as this viable. This is akin to shooting a first worldwide battleship main armament to start the 100 yard sprint at the local primary school. Fun to do but really.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferretlurcher1970 Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Really. was thinking of buying a Bofors for rabbit shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, Ferretlurcher1970 said: Really. was thinking of buying a Bofors for rabbit shooting Go for it, might struggle to get suitable ammunition though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Minky, the O.P. is in the USA and is trying to revive an interesting antique. As for your other remarks, please just realise that almost everything that you see on the internet about punting is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minky Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Pushandpull said: Minky, the O.P. is in the USA and is trying to revive an interesting antique. As for your other remarks, please just realise that almost everything that you see on the internet about punting is nonsense. Hang on a minute. please reconsider your post. Where is there any mention in the posts above of the OP being in the USA.? AND where have I remarked about anything to do with the internet.? I've been shooting and wild fowling for many years to know that punt gunning is setting up the punt and gun to shoot at a LOT of duck generally in a pack. AND this was generally done to shoot a LOT of wildfowl to send to market. It has died out because it wasn't viable as a job. Areas of quiet water aren't there like there were. It's the same as duck decoys. There's only about four or five left and they are mainly only used for research purposes to tag birds and check for avian flue and stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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