ryle Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 Hi all, This topic has been covered a few times but im after some advice with a slighly different slant on it. I have had a non certificate holder join me on several occasions to learn to shoot. Over the past 12 months he has been a safe shot and is most definitely competent. He has used a spare gun, and my ammunition at a few local clay grounds. Obviously, all equipment comes home with me. His intention was to get his own certificate once he has moved out from his parents house. (My mum had the same attitude when i was in my late teens, i.e no guns under my roof) He seems to have lost interest or given up trying to fly the nest, which is none of my business really. My question is, is there a point where this chap needs to obtain his own cert or can he indefinitely shoot with me under my close supervision? Many thanks for any advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 He can indefinitely shoot with anyone who is willing to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted November 4 Author Report Share Posted November 4 Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 He can also get his own certificate and not get a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 41 minutes ago, Newbie to this said: He can also get his own certificate and not get a gun. this as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted November 5 Author Report Share Posted November 5 Thank you all, I'll mention this to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 He can also (with a licence) purchase a shotgun and keep it in your cabinet. But, his shotgun would also have to be registered on your licence and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 And borrow the club gun at a ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 The licence would allow him to buy ammo also, so you didn't have to buy and store what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted November 5 Report Share Posted November 5 My advice would be for him to apply for a certificate, then he would be in the system for what now seems to be an unnecessarily long application process. That way, he will already be in a position to get his gun if and when he gets his own place. It must be so frustrating when you discover a hobby that you love, to have to wait up to two years before you can get the wherewithal to fully enjoy your new found passion. There is no wonder shooting is dying out. I wonder if they deliberately make the application process overly long knowing that many applicants will lose interest in owning guns during the prolonged wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryle Posted November 5 Author Report Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, moondoggy said: It must be so frustrating when you discover a hobby that you love, to have to wait up to two years before you can get the wherewithal to fully enjoy your new found passion. There is no wonder shooting is dying out. I wonder if they deliberately make the application process overly long knowing that many applicants will lose interest in owning guns during the prolonged wait. Yes it is rather disheartening to say the least. The long process may be a mixture of bieng deliberate and general low productivity of what I'm imagining will still be classed as civil service / public sector. And before I get any grief about slagging of the public sector, I work in the public sector and I see pleeeenty of it sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 As long as the certificate holder "supervisor" is over 21 he can shoot with them indefinitely. And that's with anyone who holds a shotgun certificate over the age of 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 7 Report Share Posted November 7 now years ago my feo told me no.cant take any one out,if not got cert.has it all changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 16 hours ago, mossy835 said: now years ago my feo told me no.cant take any one out,if not got cert.has it all changed. 11(6) firearms act covers clay grounds, for the sake of the argument above (if the clay ground applies). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 5 minutes ago, HantsRob said: 11(6) firearms act covers clay grounds, for the sake of the argument above (if the clay ground applies). However the clay ground may want there club coach/safety officer to accompany the non license holder could be ground policy or insurance purposes expect to have a little paperwork to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 Absolutely. The law doesn't dictate that, however it could be a FLO requirement on the ground, or insurance, or just their own policy to keep themselves protected. I really am surprised more sites don't do this, however I guess it would affect income depending on the nature of the grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fil Posted November 8 Report Share Posted November 8 21 hours ago, mossy835 said: now years ago my feo told me no.cant take any one out,if not got cert.has it all changed. Yes or he was telling you porkies. On 07/11/2024 at 09:52, Fil said: As long as the certificate holder "supervisor" is over 21 he can shoot with them indefinitely. And that's with anyone who holds a shotgun certificate over the age of 21. Correction Following this up the age of 21 applies to airgun use. With shotguns the "lender" (certificate holder) need only to be 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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