Staffordshire Constabulary Firearms Department (FD)

[wymberley]

Does anyone know what the folk manning this outfit are playing at and in particular with regard to FAC air? 

My nephew - 50 odd yoa - lives on a farm and already has permission to shoot shotgun over the land outside of his own boundary and has a SGC. I have just made him an offer which he can't refuse and neither will his son. As it happens, he's already spoken with the FD regarding the possibility of having an FAC. He was told that an application for a FAC would take some 2 years to process and also that he had no chance of getting one approved for air. It seems - according to the FD - that an air rifle pellet having either missed the target or passed through it would then ricochet more than any other rifle which I imagine also includes the 22LR. He keeps chickens and is having trouble with both squirrel and fox and is fully aware that the permission to shoot on the land outside of his boundary would need amending accordingly.

[scarecrow243]

tell him to apply for the f.a.c. air rifle but do not put fox control only pest control on the application  plus a .25 cal. would be better than the .22  or .177

[clangerman]

a response like that from a firearms dept should be shared with the chief constable and pcc asap! 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Surely not another case of an FEO NOT knowing what they are talking about?

[Dougy]

Im in Staffs and racking my brain as to who would come out with this TOSH. The dealings i have had i have found them very accommodating, eg asking for a 30 cal CF and being granted 30cal, same again with a 17 cal, also had land calibre increased, not hugely but they listened to reason and actioned the request on why i asked to increase. So they are not all as dumb as the person that you have raised in your post, i would certainly be asking to speak to someone who knows what they are talking about, and i would make it clear why. 

[mossy835]

48 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

Surely not another case of an FEO NOT knowing what they are talking about?

 

 

looks like it

[wymberley]

1 hour ago, scarecrow243 said:

tell him to apply for the f.a.c. air rifle but do not put fox control only pest control on the application  plus a .25 cal. would be better than the .22  or .177

The .25 is already in the equation

59 minutes ago, clangerman said:

a response like that from a firearms dept should be shared with the chief constable and pcc asap! 

I added his MP to the list

24 minutes ago, Dougy said:

Im in Staffs and racking my brain as to who would come out with this TOSH. The dealings i have had i have found them very accommodating, eg asking for a 30 cal CF and being granted 30cal, same again with a 17 cal, also had land calibre increased, not hugely but they listened to reason and actioned the request on why i asked to increase. So they are not all as dumb as the person that you have raised in your post, i would certainly be asking to speak to someone who knows what they are talking about, and i would make it clear why. 

He was delighted with their efficiency in renewing his SGC.

Many thanks, All.

Edited 19 hours ago by wymberley

[pigeon controller]

Currently in the process of renewing my shotgun cert after thirty years of certified shooting and received two letters informing me that if it goes passed the expiry date I may have to put my guns in the hands of a RFD. I have no control over the time they take to process.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

40 minutes ago, pigeon controller said:

Currently in the process of renewing my shotgun cert after thirty years of certified shooting and received two letters informing me that if it goes passed the expiry date I may have to put my guns in the hands of a RFD. I have no control over the time they take to process.

And did it say it would be at your expense because of their ineptitude?

[HantsRob]

1 hour ago, pigeon controller said:

Currently in the process of renewing my shotgun cert after thirty years of certified shooting and received two letters informing me that if it goes passed the expiry date I may have to put my guns in the hands of a RFD. I have no control over the time they take to process.

Out of curiosity, how many weeks before it's due to expire did you put in your renewal?

[pigeon controller]

11 hours ago, HantsRob said:

Out of curiosity, how many weeks before it's due to expire did you put in your renewal?

Eight weeks, the delay was due to receiving the medical report which took four weeks.

[Newbie to this]

18 minutes ago, pigeon controller said:

Eight weeks, the delay was due to receiving the medical report which took four weeks.

If you got it in the full 8 weeks beforehand, then they have to get it renewed or issue you an extension. If it was under 8 weeks then they can insist you store your Firearms/Shotguns. The key is the exact date of the 8 weeks.

Edited 4 hours ago by Newbie to this