Cosd Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 You experienced guys out there, The one and only permission we have currently has wheat on it which is still green and I'd say over two feet tall. When and what are we expecting for the next time there might be some decent pigeon shooting there? Is there shooting to be had after its cut? How much longer is the wait for us? The farmer said the next crop will be OSR, but we have no idea how long..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hitman Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Keep watching the field , it might get flattened by summer storms , its what we call laid corn. The pigeons land in the flat patches , easy to decoy , but you will lose a lot in the standing corn. When the field is cut it should draw pigeons , but if the farmer is putting OSR into the field it will be ploughed quite quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 good bit of advice there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the advice I'm guessing if we get any "laid corn" it will be once the wheat is golden in colour? Bearing in mind it's over two feet tall, any idea how long before it starts changing colour? Sorry to ask such basics, but I really don't know..... Edited May 20, 2008 by Cosd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Thanks for the advice I'm guessing if we get any "laid corn" it will be once the wheat is golden in colour? Bearing in mind it's over two feet tall, any idea how long before it starts changing colour? Sorry to ask such basics, but I really don't know..... Corn can get laid at anytime now that it is a bit of length to it. A summer thunderstorm can do it or if too much nitrogen has been chucked around then it can just keel over. Nowadays the second reason is not so common due to cost controls and varieties grown. Soon you will see the ears start to form, as soon as that happens the crop can be targeted, especially by rooks, they will even bend the stalks over to get at the milky grain so dont need laid corn to feed off it. Things will start to ripen and turn in colour anytime from July to September bepensing on location and local factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 remember dogs can get problems with seeds in eyes and ears in laid crops, happy hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandersj89 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 remember dogs can get problems with seeds in eyes and ears in laid crops, happy hunting Yes, especially in Barley where the awls are ridged and work themselves into nooks and crannies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted May 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Guys, Thanks again for the very useful information. There is so much to learn in this game, but with this forum and all the good people on here, I am not fazed at all........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Also be wary when picking up short birds in laid cereals, as some Farmers don't like it, on the basis you will cause as much damage tramping around as the pigeons do eating it. The same goes for ripening rape. Keep to the tram lines where you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretman Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Keep watching the field , it might get flattened by summer storms , its what we call laid corn. The pigeons land in the flat patches , easy to decoy , but you will lose a lot in the standing corn. When the field is cut it should draw pigeons , but if the farmer is putting OSR into the field it will be ploughed quite quickly. Also be wary when picking up short birds in laid cereals, as some Farmers don't like it, on the basis you will cause as much damage tramping around as the pigeons do eating it.The same goes for ripening rape. Keep to the tram lines where you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 Best way to check laid cereals is to squash it between your thumbnails, if you get a white milky substance, that is when the birds like it, right the way up until it gets cut. Also keep an eye out for any areas that haven`t taken well and are shorter than the rest of the field as the birds can also land there without any problems associated with escaping if they need too. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 When shooting laid cereals i allways dicipline my self to shoot the birds over the laid patch ,this is to minimise the damage done to the standing corn looking for birds . Any birds that i shoot out side the laid area i tend to leave were they are unless i can see them . If you shoot a bird onto the laid patch and you dont think its dead ,shoot it again to stop it wandering off . I will allways try and shoot the biggest area of the laid crop ,to give myself shooting room . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I found quite a few bare patches with short & laid corn along the farm track, I noticed this around most of the field but along the track I could hide in the opposite hedge. Going back this year but allso doing a dawn raid with an airrifle to keep the noise down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country Boy Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 When shooting laid cereals i allways dicipline my self to shoot the birds over the laid patch. Harnser Oh yeah, I believe you mate C.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 Trained pigeons brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 It comes with experiance and field craft . you will learn someday . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 Just seen today the pigeons are trying to land on the wheat!!!! The phone cables are getting packed too!! .........Im thinking I will have a bash at them this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 they are getting round two the barley,have a go you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 I would wait until harvest before trying to decoy on it, wheat stubble no doubt will be hit big time by pigeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 they are getting round two the barley,have a go you never know. My thoughts also....... got nawt too loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 16, 2008 Report Share Posted June 16, 2008 not going to respond to the thread as i normally would as there seems to be a few idiots replied and cannot be bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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