moulty Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Im luck enough to have an uncle with his own farm (albeit relatively small). He lets me and my mate on their and we decoy for pigeon. When we were talking to my uncle yesterday he told me that he happened to be reading the local paper and had spotted that someone advertising for pigeon shooters.... BONUS, I thought ......so I took down the number and called the guy on the way home. He seemed a nice chap and said that he had several patches left to shoot on around his land..... he gave the impression that he had already given certain patches out to several others and that he only had 6 or so patches left. Then he said the cost would be £360 per year !! Is this usual to charge ? Afterall there is a benefit for him (pest control and stopping crop damage). What do you think ? If you pay then what do you pay ? I'll count myself lucky that we have some free land to shoot over for now eh if this is the norm ! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staglioni Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sounds a lot of money to me but if ya can't get it for nowt then it might be worth paying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 no way would i pay but i was lucky enough to get permission off one farmer,which then lead to several more permissions. In return i tend to do the odd job for them FOC fix gates mend a fence then we all happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 If you can't get any pigeon shooting permissions for free, some might consider £360 a year worth paying. Fortunately, I don't pay for mine, apart from a few bottles at Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taff Mason Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 at the moment i can't find any free permission so im seriously thinking about offering some money in exchange for shooting. i couldn't justify spending £360 though. i'd rather pay by the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtom Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have to admit I would pay for decent shooting near me. There just doesn't seem to be any about so paying a bit might be worth it for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 £1/day......if you can get out there and at those prices I would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staglioni Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Henry D. just hit the nail on the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Von Tirpitz Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Must say surprised a farmer wants to charge, but they are supposedly all a bit hard up these days, note the number of farm shops and similiar things cropping up. If you are only going to make it once a month then perhaps that is not really a bargain, but if its local to you and you intend to go lots, then I would pay. After all look what people pay to watch a football being kicked around a pitch about 30 times a year and you cannot even shoot anything when doing that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 I was given £20 last friday for turning up so quick to get rid of crow which were settling on a friend of mine's land, he is growing wheat and barley with considerable damage done in a matter of a day or so..... He called me up describing that their was hundreds of crows in one of the fields behind his house, i only had 3 boxes left so took the lot, Rotweil No 6 32grm. Turned up saw around 20 - 30 on the telegraph wires over the field and thought "typical ******g farmer exagerating, anyway crept round the side of a hedge fired 2 shots at sitting targets droped them both, then the bloody field took off....... With out exageration their must have been between 200 and 300 crows / rooks / jackdaws. Hid in the corner of the field and every now and then, one bird would fly over, the farmer called it a "Spy plane" as apparantly crows will send one bird to scout the area which will then return to the flock inform them its safe and they will all come back in groups of 5ish, seemed to be the case as they just kept coming in groups of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc etc Well i ran out of carts didnt i 75 shots fired, 53 birds picked up = result The strange bit is they wernt landing in the crops but were heading for an empty field of just crass which had cowes in it about 2 weeks prior, why would this be? Anyway i didnt take the money although it was nice to be offered, my arguement was he lets me shoot whenever i want anytime of the year and without him my permission portfolio would be 600acres less, so he said when the season kicks off we can go out shoot a load of duck / phesants around the place, get the lads round and have a feast.... sounds good to me!!! Ohhh and P.S - I didnt create a thread on this as their are some W**k**s on here who wish for everyone to have photographic evidence of everything they say, and you guessed it i dont... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 I was given £20 last friday for turning up so quick to get rid of crow which were settling on a friend of mine's land, he is growing wheat and barley with considerable damage done in a matter of a day or so..... He called me up describing that their was hundreds of crows in one of the fields behind his house, i only had 3 boxes left so took the lot, Rotweil No 6 32grm. Turned up saw around 20 - 30 on the telegraph wires over the field and thought "typical ******g farmer exagerating, anyway crept round the side of a hedge fired 2 shots at sitting targets droped them both, then the bloody field took off....... With out exageration their must have been between 200 and 300 crows / rooks / jackdaws. Hid in the corner of the field and every now and then, one bird would fly over, the farmer called it a "Spy plane" as apparantly crows will send one bird to scout the area which will then return to the flock inform them its safe and they will all come back in groups of 5ish, seemed to be the case as they just kept coming in groups of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc etc Well i ran out of carts didnt i 75 shots fired, 53 birds picked up = result The strange bit is they wernt landing in the crops but were heading for an empty field of just crass which had cowes in it about 2 weeks prior, why would this be? Anyway i didnt take the money although it was nice to be offered, my arguement was he lets me shoot whenever i want anytime of the year and without him my permission portfolio would be 600acres less, so he said when the season kicks off we can go out shoot a load of duck / phesants around the place, get the lads round and have a feast.... sounds good to me!!! Ohhh and P.S - I didnt create a thread on this as their are some W**k**s on here who wish for everyone to have photographic evidence of everything they say, and you guessed it i dont... and who exactly are the W**K**s your referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Due to not being able to get any permissions locally as yet I paid for a arranged day, that was £80 per day so being offered at £360 depending what it offered exactly if it was 24/7 access for all vermin and it was local then I might consider it a investment to myself but for pigeons only limited time etc then a bit on the steep side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 If you have a burning desire to throw your money away go for it. There'll be plenty reading this thread ******* there pants with the amount of free land available Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 if you have no land two shoot on, or cant get land then two shoot pigeons you will have two pay.down here land is plentyfull. i have so much i have a job two get round it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis 682 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi moulty just read this & wondered where you are? The NPPC cover alot of areas from north yorks down to birmingham! The 1st year joining fee is £150 savin you a lump!! A crackin set up, had some really good days on their land & some not so good, but thats pigeon shootin! Have alook at their web site (ps was the ad you read in the F/G) Good luck with the shooting mate Lewis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I was given £20 last friday for turning up so quick to get rid of crow which were settling on a friend of mine's land, he is growing wheat and barley with considerable damage done in a matter of a day or so..... He called me up describing that their was hundreds of crows in one of the fields behind his house, i only had 3 boxes left so took the lot, Rotweil No 6 32grm. Turned up saw around 20 - 30 on the telegraph wires over the field and thought "typical ******g farmer exagerating, anyway crept round the side of a hedge fired 2 shots at sitting targets droped them both, then the bloody field took off....... With out exageration their must have been between 200 and 300 crows / rooks / jackdaws. Hid in the corner of the field and every now and then, one bird would fly over, the farmer called it a "Spy plane" as apparantly crows will send one bird to scout the area which will then return to the flock inform them its safe and they will all come back in groups of 5ish, seemed to be the case as they just kept coming in groups of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc etc Well i ran out of carts didnt i 75 shots fired, 53 birds picked up = result The strange bit is they wernt landing in the crops but were heading for an empty field of just crass which had cowes in it about 2 weeks prior, why would this be? Anyway i didnt take the money although it was nice to be offered, my arguement was he lets me shoot whenever i want anytime of the year and without him my permission portfolio would be 600acres less, so he said when the season kicks off we can go out shoot a load of duck / phesants around the place, get the lads round and have a feast.... sounds good to me!!! Ohhh and P.S - I didnt create a thread on this as their are some W**k**s on here who wish for everyone to have photographic evidence of everything they say, and you guessed it i dont... and who exactly are the W**K**s your referring to? Why paranoid?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 I was given £20 last friday for turning up so quick to get rid of crow which were settling on a friend of mine's land, he is growing wheat and barley with considerable damage done in a matter of a day or so..... He called me up describing that their was hundreds of crows in one of the fields behind his house, i only had 3 boxes left so took the lot, Rotweil No 6 32grm. Turned up saw around 20 - 30 on the telegraph wires over the field and thought "typical ******g farmer exagerating, anyway crept round the side of a hedge fired 2 shots at sitting targets droped them both, then the bloody field took off....... With out exageration their must have been between 200 and 300 crows / rooks / jackdaws. Hid in the corner of the field and every now and then, one bird would fly over, the farmer called it a "Spy plane" as apparantly crows will send one bird to scout the area which will then return to the flock inform them its safe and they will all come back in groups of 5ish, seemed to be the case as they just kept coming in groups of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc etc Well i ran out of carts didnt i 75 shots fired, 53 birds picked up = result The strange bit is they wernt landing in the crops but were heading for an empty field of just crass which had cowes in it about 2 weeks prior, why would this be? Anyway i didnt take the money although it was nice to be offered, my arguement was he lets me shoot whenever i want anytime of the year and without him my permission portfolio would be 600acres less, so he said when the season kicks off we can go out shoot a load of duck / phesants around the place, get the lads round and have a feast.... sounds good to me!!! Ohhh and P.S - I didnt create a thread on this as their are some W**k**s on here who wish for everyone to have photographic evidence of everything they say, and you guessed it i dont... and who exactly are the W**K**s your referring to? Why paranoid?? Why would I be paranoid?, I do enjoy reading your b*llsh*t though Shot your first woodpigeon yet? I know you where a bit confused if you had or not......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Im not confused, if you were confused thats fine, and i have a pretty good idea why you would be confused but ill keep that to myself. For the record myself and the guy i go shooting with have shot around 30 - 40 over the last 2 weeks over wheat and barley but i dont have a camera so i cant take pictures to prove it, so i havent said anything as much as i would have liked to. Wood pigeon's are not common around this area as crops have not been grown in this area much before, ferrals which roost in barns on farms tends to be the only pigeon we get a chance to shoot so that explains my write ups, and im sure you can see for yourself the thread "how many pigeon shot" doesnt limit it to only wood pigeon so that is why i posted saying 22 or whatever it was, if it had on been titled "how many WOOD PIGEON shot" i wouldnt of posted it in the first place........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 If i didnt have any pigeon shooting available i may concider paying a modest sum to have a day out . There are plenty of farmers out there who require the services of a regular trustworthy pigeon shooter who can offer a service at short notice .Where a lot of shooters go wrong is they promise the farmer full time cover and then cannot come up with the goods . Work and family commitments are more important than pigeon shooting . Over the years i have cultivated a strong friendship with my farmer and his family and have the run of the farms and can shoot what i want when i want . When ever i have been away on holiday i have allways deputised some body to watch the farms for me and have never not turned up to shoot pigeons when requested by my good friend . I know that this type of relationship takes time and effort to cultivate but it is not difficult . I would surgest that pigeon shooters knock on doors and try to get permission to shoot . You can then try to get to know your farmer better and maybe have a better relationship than just pigeon shooter and land owner . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Im luck enough to have an uncle with his own farm (albeit relatively small). He lets me and my mate on their and we decoy for pigeon. When we were talking to my uncle yesterday he told me that he happened to be reading the local paper and had spotted that someone advertising for pigeon shooters.... BONUS, I thought ......so I took down the number and called the guy on the way home. He seemed a nice chap and said that he had several patches left to shoot on around his land..... he gave the impression that he had already given certain patches out to several others and that he only had 6 or so patches left. Then he said the cost would be £360 per year !! Is this usual to charge ? Afterall there is a benefit for him (pest control and stopping crop damage). What do you think ? If you pay then what do you pay ? I'll count myself lucky that we have some free land to shoot over for now eh if this is the norm ! Cheers join a club moulty, my club charges £106 to join and £56 per year after that, these fees include basc membership we have 14 farms and one large estate .We meet up once a month for a pint and we hold a raffle to keep our funds up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andythechicken Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 That seems a great club.http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/style_emoticons/default/good.gif How do you go about finding out about these clubs? I live near gatwick if anyone knows of any? Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Andy look in the basc magazine they sometimes put a page of shooting opportunities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 If i didnt have any pigeon shooting available i may concider paying a modest sum to have a day out . There are plenty of farmers out there who require the services of a regular trustworthy pigeon shooter who can offer a service at short notice .Where a lot of shooters go wrong is they promise the farmer full time cover and then cannot come up with the goods . Work and family commitments are more important than pigeon shooting . Over the years i have cultivated a strong friendship with my farmer and his family and have the run of the farms and can shoot what i want when i want . When ever i have been away on holiday i have allways deputised some body to watch the farms for me and have never not turned up to shoot pigeons when requested by my good friend . I know that this type of relationship takes time and effort to cultivate but it is not difficult . I would surgest that pigeon shooters knock on doors and try to get permission to shoot . You can then try to get to know your farmer better and maybe have a better relationship than just pigeon shooter and land owner . Harnser . this is all very good advice,the more you make time for the farmer the more he will see you as a friend and not just some bloke with a gun.I always drop off a few pigeons whenever i manage to shoot any but also take time out to thin the rabbits too. but good luck anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 I never pay for any of my pigeon shooting apart from the odd bottle of the hard stuff for the farmer at christmas. On some of the farms I shoot the farmers supplies the cartridges. But its a two way deal , if a farmer wants crop protection then I am on the field the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 some shooters are less fortunate and just cant get the time to knock doors unike myself . so if they are happy to pay someone then so be it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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