Harnser Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 A very interesting article in the discovery owners club magazine . ADMIXTURE OF TWO STROKE OIL TO THE DIESEL FUEL , The actual diesel fuel we fill up our diesel discoveries with is a 5% biodiesel blend. It is well known that biodiesel acts as a solvent for sludge deposits blocking filters and causing breakdowns in the worst case ,further it is weakening the gaskets and the pipes in the fuel system and has no lubrication capacities for maintaining the fuel injection pump and the injectors. Therefore it is a good idea to add a lubricant to the fuel,when filling up on the service station .Scientific studies in the U.S.A. have attested the improvement of all the processes in the running engine and of the exhaust emmissions . simply i have tested it on my 200 tdi discovery adding 2-stroke oil liqui moly in a concentration of 1:300 ,corresponding to 100 ml per 30 litres of diesel . The effect is very instant and impressive . the engine runs much smoother and quieter than before and my impression is that there is a feel of a bit more power ,especially when accelerating . As the 2-stroke oil is combustible without any residue there will be no problems with exaust system or catayst if fitted . I think the ad mixture of 2 stroke oil to the diesel fuel in a concentration of 1: 300 is a big benifit for the engine and will guarantee a longer life of of components . It is signed . Dr. Diether Hoffman . I bought my self a bottle of two stroke oil yesterday and added some to my diesel tank . Today i took out the car for a run and was pleasently surprised at how quiet the engine had become and it was deffinately smother and yes i noticed and improvement in power whilst accelerating . Give it a try and see what you think . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Im quite intrested in this Harnser.I drive a Citroen ZX diesel which is a 100% reliable engine and returns good MPG,but its not excally refined so im curious to try this out.It cant do any harm cos diesels are designed to run on all manner of crappy fuels anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Imperfection , Give it a try you wont do any harm . It has certinly worked for me . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Are we talking normal two stroke oil eg stihl brand or similar? If so ill give it a try Edited October 25, 2008 by paulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Are we talking normal two stroke oil eg stihl brand or similar? If so ill give it a try paulf . I bought a bottle of fully synthetic 2 stroke oil that you put in a 2 stroke bike . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 harnser you know what youll start now ? diesel drivers going round syphoning 2 stroke out of the boy racers mopeds! mind you thats not a bad thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I suspect this could well void any warranties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Do you not think that if this were the case the manufacturers (who invest millions in product development) wouldn't have already done something to achieve this improvement? Dr. Diether Hoffman - sounds like a reliable source...do you that that is PhD (ebay) or MD?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neels Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I'll try that tomorrow - my diesel Disco is so far out of warranty anyway, and a bit of lubrication never goes amiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8landy Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I suspect this could well void any warranties. It would only affect warranty of fuel associated parts (if they can prove it). It is not going to affect suspension, body work, electrics etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Do you not think that if this were the case the manufacturers (who invest millions in product development) wouldn't have already done something to achieve this improvement? Dr. Diether Hoffman - sounds like a reliable source...do you that that is PhD (ebay) or MD?? Dr . Diether hoffman is a german scientist . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorboy Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Even so if you mix 2 stroke oil with diesel (who also was german) surely you would get that blue smoke from the exhaust which could mean mot failure on exhaust emissions alone . that said who s going to be the first to try CASTROL.. R even money on harnser Edited October 25, 2008 by tractorboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Even so if you mix 2 stroke oil with diesel (who also was german) surely you would get that blue smoke from the exhaust which could mean mot failure on exhaust emissions alone . that said who s going to be the first to try CASTROL.. R even money on harnser Tractor boy , According to the good doctors article scientific research in america has proved an improvement in exhaust emmissions when adding two stroke oil . And any how i have used pork and onion dripping for lubing my diesel fuel . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Just out of interest .I treated my disco fuel tank with the reccommended amount of two stroke oil as per the artical posted . I did a round trip of 50 miles today and the difference in the car was quite remarkable . The engine was noticably much quieter ,it was definately smoother and i could notice better acceleration ,more so in the higher gears . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 50/50 diesel and cooking oil in mine runs like a good un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Tractor boy , According to the good doctors article scientific research in america has proved an improvement in exhaust emmissions when adding two stroke oil . References? Are you sure this isn't an experient to see how gullible people are? Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 References? Are you sure this isn't an experient to see how gullible people are? Nial. Nial , Its common knowledge that the low sulpher diesel fuel that we are sold at the pumps today has a less lubricating effect on the fuel system components ,ie the fuel pump ,injector pump .So much so that the fuel can actually damage these components . I dont know why you should think that this is a conspiracy to see how gullible people are by getting them to put an additive in their diesel fuel . Had he said that you should put jam donuts in the tank as a lubricant i certinly would have been suspicious . As you proberbly know two stroke olt is also used as a lubricant in all two cycle petrol engines and infact these engines cannot operate without it . The two stroke oil will also act as an upper cylinder lubricant and help towards cyclinder lube as it does in a two stroke engine . No i dont think its a conspiracy to see how gullible people are . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 harnser i`m not trying to see fault in your idea but surely if it was a good thing the oil companies would be adding it before it gets to the fore courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 harnser i`m not trying to see fault in your idea but surely if it was a good thing the oil companies would be adding it before it gets to the fore courts? Tweedledee, This is not my idea ,but something that i can see a lot of sense in . The oil companys over the last few years have had to take out the additives from both diesel and petrol fuels that they used to put in for making your car run better . Can you remember the lead in petrol and the sulpher in diesel . If these additives were still in the fuels of today then there would not be any need to be adding an additive . It is a known fact that modern day fuels can damage you car . Look at the problems when the supermarkets bought that cheap fuel that was destined for the third world .All those cars that had major damage done to them by fuel with no lubricant . I am sure that the oil companys would love to sell petrol and diesel with a super lube in it ,but the government wont let them . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 " i`m not trying to see fault in your idea but surely if it was a good thing the oil companies would be adding it before it gets to the fore courts?" The oil companys do just that, its called shel optimax or BP ultimate. BTW, I got some fully synthetic from halfords and put 200ml in a full tank of derv today (Nissan Navara) After a mile or so of motorway driving I could notice a real differance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 that said who s going to be the first to try CASTROL.. R Now your talking, what a smell that is. Actually, Silkolene did a fully synthetic oil that smelt very similar to Castrol R. Think I still have some Silkolene in the garage from my trialling days, might give it a try. :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Castrol aaarrrhhh. What a smell. I remember adding it to the petrol in my Triumph in the sixties, after changing piston and camshaft, just did'nt want to drop a valve, so used it as an upper cylinder lube. A bit of lube never hurt anything :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.R.P. Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hya Paladin In the early sixties a gang of us used to go to a hot dog stand in Birmingham called Alex's. I had a 63 Bonneville with Castrol R added. What a nice AROMA of onions and castrol R. A lot better than a shot of Redex. HAPPY DAYS,HAPPY DAYS. Regards A.R.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becassier Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I tried to buy a bottle of two-stroke at my local garage. They are looking ten quid for it. Said that some geezer on the Pigeon Watch Forum is responsible for the hike in price! Becassier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted October 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 I tried to buy a bottle of two-stroke at my local garage. They are looking ten quid for it. Said that some geezer on the Pigeon Watch Forum is responsible for the hike in price! Becassier Becassier . you are absulutely right on the price of the two stroke . I paid a tenner for a bottle of the two stroke oil and at 100 ml to 35 litres of diesel it will treat 350 litres of fuel . He didnt really say that about me , did he ? Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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