Lighter carts in semi

[sirusman]

Anyone using 21g 0r 24g through a semi if so what semi and any problems cycling with lighter carts?

Mick

[MC]

I have used 24gr in my extrema without any issues.

 

I have never used 21gr in any gun (except a .410) so I couldn't comment

[sirusman]

Thanks i am looking at buying a semi Beretta and i do use some 21g

[Andy W]

21gm are fine in my M2.

[Zapp]

Yep, I put a load of comp-x 21g carts through an AL391 the other day and it worked flawlessy.

 

ZB

[sirusman]

Zapp that is the gun i am interested in thanks

Mick

[Zapp]

Zapp that is the gun i am interested in thanks

Mick

 

No dramas. It is worth pointing out that the gun was very clean (ie my mates one not mine ). Dont know how it would do with heavy fouling and light carts, but I was amazed at how it performed.

 

ZB

[Raja Clavata]

Hi,

I tried a 21g Hull CompX in my new Urika2 after only putting about 50 odd 28 gram carts through it and it nearly cycled it.

 

Despite what the gun shop said <quote> semi-auto's don't like 28 gram eley firsts </quote> I found mine cycles them fine.

 

I am confident it would cycle 24 gram carts now and remain hopeful it'll do 21's in time.

 

Suspect there will be variations even between the same model of gun so a case of suck it and see.

 

Best regards

[pair away]

my 391 did not cycle 21g and was very choosy on which 24g loads it would do , if your after a semi - auto go with the M2 much better gun and it will cycle 21/24g shells ( this is an opinion formed from using both guns with both loads ).

[Country_est]

Hi,

I tried a 21g Hull CompX in my new Urika2 after only putting about 50 odd 28 gram carts through it and it nearly cycled it.

 

Despite what the gun shop said <quote> semi-auto's don't like 28 gram eley firsts </quote> I found mine cycles them fine.

 

I am confident it would cycle 24 gram carts now and remain hopeful it'll do 21's in time.

 

Suspect there will be variations even between the same model of gun so a case of suck it and see.

 

Best regards

 

Funny you should mention Hull, me and a mate were doing a round of clays at the weekend and I was using my Xtrema with Ely first 28g and it was all fine. Mate had some 28g Hull 65mm carts and was blaming these for his poor round, so I took a couple off him to prove it was him and not the carts and found they would not cycle. Went back to the eleys and all was fine.

 

So I will second what said above that Hull might not....

[sirusman]

THanks to you all for your valued opinion on this very helpfull.

Mick

[Cranfield]

I am using Gamebore White Gold XLR 24 gms in my Beretta AL391 with no problems.

[Greenhunter]

Have had a couple of jams last couple of times out and have come to the conclusion its the build quality of the shell

and not so much the weight of shot. Its a 391 by the way and Saga carts (well, I am on a pension)

[T.C.]

I too have used Lyalvale HV21 gm in my Beretta 391 semi-auto with no problems . The Hull 21s worked well too but not the Ely 21gm .

[sodit]

I have a nine year old 391 12 bore it cycles Hull comp X 21 gram with no problems. My wifes 391 20 bore will not always cycle 21 gram lyvales but it is brand new less than 250 cartridges through it.

[Peter De La Mare]

My mate's 15+ year old 303 won't cycle them.

[Ferret Master]

My A303 also won't cycle 21g loads.

 

Good job I don't use them isn't it.

 

FM

[mossy835]

not a big enough kick two eject the cart.

[Peter De La Mare]

not a big enough kick two eject the cart.

 

You don't say!

[Zapp]

I have a nine year old 391 12 bore it cycles Hull comp X 21 gram with no problems. My wifes 391 20 bore will not always cycle 21 gram lyvales but it is brand new less than 250 cartridges through it.

 

Could just be that your wife's gun needs a bit more breaking in before it will work with the lighter stuff.

 

As far as older autos like the 303 not cycling, I wonder if it is simply because a 21g cart was unthought of, let alone catered for in those days, whereas newer guns like the 391 and Benelli range have been designed with ultra low gas pressure/recoil in mind.

 

Wonderful things modern autos. It's a shame they are so maligned in some circles (and this is coming from a born-again old English s/s addict!).

 

Have you considered a Benelli Sirusman? They have a very impressive reputation, and I have to admit that cleaning gas parts got old when I was in the army, let alone my spare time (though the 391 Urika is a marvel of design, and I doubt very much that I will part with it as long as it works)

 

ZB

[mossy835]

ya i do

[CEREALTHRILLER]

My Browning Gold ,that my son uses, cycles 24g but it wont cycle 21g.

[malkiserow]

Could just be that your wife's gun needs a bit more breaking in before it will work with the lighter stuff.

 

As far as older autos like the 303 not cycling, I wonder if it is simply because a 21g cart was unthought of, let alone catered for in those days, whereas newer guns like the 391 and Benelli range have been designed with ultra low gas pressure/recoil in mind.

 

Wonderful things modern autos. It's a shame they are so maligned in some circles (and this is coming from a born-again old English s/s addict!).

 

Have you considered a Benelli Sirusman? They have a very impressive reputation, and I have to admit that cleaning gas parts got old when I was in the army, let alone my spare time (though the 391 Urika is a marvel of design, and I doubt very much that I will part with it as long as it works)

 

ZB

 

Zapp, I think he has a Benelli now. My AL390 cycles 25 gram but will try some 21 soon. The importers said to open up the gass ports by 0.2 mm if required for 21 grm.