Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 This last week i have been camping with the family on a very nice site and all was peaceful and quiet until wednesday night at 23.10 when i heard the sound of a quad in the field next to the campsite,they had harvested this field during that day,anyway i am sitting there outside the tent when i heard the quad stop and the unmistakable sound of a silenced .22 I was slightly alarmed at this as it was so close to the site(about 150 yds max)I listened to the quad stop 4 or 5 times and 4 or 5 shots.I couldnt tell exactly what way they were shooting but i soon found out as the inevitable happened with a .22lr.There was the phhhut quickly followed by a bullet zinging over my head and across the campsite Now i dont know how high above my head but that doesnt really matter,but it made me duck (as you do) and made me very alarmed by now. What would you have done in the same situation ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 nothing Why nothing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) . Edited September 20, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Why nothing ?? i could go into a long winded answer, but im working my way through a litre of vodka and cant be *********. simple answer - the fact that the guy was using a silencer meant that he was showing consideration for those on the campsite. anyone who uses 22lr's will tell you that ricochets are part and parcel of using that calibre. only the fact that you are into shooting yourself means that you knew exactly what was going on - field harvested, hearing a quad, hearing a slienced rimfire (tho you must have bloody good hearing if you heard it 150 yards away), and id reckon that the guy who was shooting probly **** himself enough when he got the ricochet, without someone having a go at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 i could go into a long winded answer, but im working my way through a litre of vodka and cant be assed. simple answer - the fact that the guy was using a silencer meant that he was showing consideration for those on the campsite. anyone who uses 22lr's will tell you that ricochets are part and parcel of using that calibre. only the fact that you are into shooting yourself means that you knew exactly what was going on - field harvested, hearing a quad, hearing a slienced rimfire (tho you must have bloody good hearing if you heard it 150 yards away), and id reckon that the guy who was shooting probly **** himself enough when he got the ricochet, without someone having a go at him So you dont mind standing in a field with your wife and kid as someone fires bullets towards you You could hear the shot very easily at 150 (ish) as it was a very still clear night on wednesday and the shot didnt scare him that much as he continued firing after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So you dont mind standing in a field with your wife and kid as someone fires bullets towards you You could hear the shot very easily at 150 (ish) as it was a very still clear night on wednesday and the shot didnt scare him that much as he continued firing after that. wooooah!! calm down. now, if someone INTENTIONALLY fired at me and the wife and kids (if i was married, and had kids) then they wouldnt know what hit them (probably several sg shells). BUT it wasnt intentional, it was a ricochet. i dont want to play it down, and i know how ****** you probly are at it, but it happens, esp with .22lrs. and the fact it ricocheted over the campsite shows the guy was sensible enough not to be shooting in that direction, and tbh, who ever really plans for ricochets?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heladoxa Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So Babbyc 500 and George Hare if, hypothetically, you, your wife or your kids got hit and the guy came over and said, 'Sorry about that', what do you do then. Wipe the blood off and say, 'That's ok, mate, a ricochet is all part and parcel of shooting .22's in the dark near a campsite. Wanna come to the funeral?' Be real. I'd be straight on the blower to get the fuzz down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So Babbyc 500 and George Hare if, hypothetically, you, your wife or your kids got hit and the guy came over and said, 'Sorry about that', what do you do then. Wipe the blood off and say, 'That's ok, mate, a ricochet is all part and parcel of shooting .22's in the dark near a campsite. Wanna come to the funeral?' Be real. I'd be straight on the blower to get the fuzz down nope. he'd be dead in the most gruesome way i can imagine. but, as i said it was an accident, daft, but an accident. and anyone who hasnt shot near a town/village/house or really anywhere that there is a chance of a ricochet doing damageor hitting someone, is, imo, either very lucky to have thousands of acres of unpopulated land to shoot on, or a liar. and no, thats not being flippant, or being unsafe, its being realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I would think that the fact the bullet came over the campsite shows he was shooting TOWARDS the site as a .22 ricochet will generally skid off something as opposed to bouncing back off it,IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I would think that the fact the bullet came over the campsite shows he was shooting TOWARDS the site as a .22 ricochet will generally skid off something as opposed to bouncing back off it,IMO. last time i was out i had one that went at an almost 90 degree angle from the direction i shot it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Not a very satisfactory situation at all. If after the ricochet all was quiet, I would leave it , but mention it to someone in the morning. If there were any more ricochets, I would mention it to someone immediately and very loudly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I would think that the fact the bullet came over the campsite shows he was shooting TOWARDS the site as a .22 ricochet will generally skid off something as opposed to bouncing back off it,IMO. I have had ricochets come back at me , one skided in right next to where I was lying, scared the **** outta me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Seems they do come back at you sometimes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Not a very satisfactory situation at all.If after the ricochet all was quiet, I would leave it , but mention it to someone in the morning. If there were any more ricochets, I would mention it to someone immediately and very loudly. Which is exactly what i done I spoke to the site owner and asked him if he knew the farmer next door and explained why and what happened,told him i did a bit of shooting myself and also said i didnt want anyone getting in any trouble for it but if he could have a quiet word with the farmer about being carefull next to the site. He was more than happy to do that and thanked me for bringing it to his attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Seems they do come back at you sometimes.... Just slightly a larger calibre.... I am sure they can come back or go off at 90 degrees but i would think most shots on a stubble field that ricochet would merely skid off and go in the direction they were going anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecooper1 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Come on lads, were all into shooting, but put in that situation myself with my family, I would have had to grab a torch, and go and have a word. Mybe not the best thing to do, but thats just me. But in my opinion SAFETY to people comes first, before any foxes, rabbits, ect. I also would not shoot next to a campsite, better being safe, than sorry. Just my opinion lads, some might agree, some might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Each and EVERY shot we take WE are responsible for as shooters, the fact that this guy managed to put one over the camp site smells fishy.In that situation you should only be shooting away from it, not toward ot at an angle to it, IMO, carrying on in that vein will eventually end in an accident, not lethal I pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtreedave Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Each and EVERY shot we take WE are responsible for as shooters,the fact that this guy managed to put one over the camp site smells fishy.In that situation you should only be shooting away from it, not toward ot at an angle to it, IMO, carrying on in that vein will eventually end in an accident, not lethal I pray. i quite agree,we have a duty of care for those around us,that is why i very rarely use .22lr or 20gr hmr rounds if i can get away with using a .17hmr or air rifle .but when riccochets occur there is no way you can predict which direction they are going to head,i have even had one come back over my shoulder,so the direction you point the rifle has no bearing on where the damage can occur :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 the fact it ricocheted over the campsite shows the guy was sensible enough not to be shooting in that direction, and tbh, who ever really plans for ricochets?? Emmm, how would that go down when applying for a FAC? Sorry mate, I've seen what ricochetes do to flesh and bone in real life and it's not pleasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 If the shooter can't be responsible for their shots then who is- I agree your man was obviously being careless so close to a camp-site... Tents aren't great at stopping bullets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Emmm, how would that go down when applying for a FAC? Sorry mate, I've seen what ricochetes do to flesh and bone in real life and it's not pleasant. its got nothing to do wih applying for your fac, its common sense - ricochets can go in any direction (tho normally not the direction youre shooting in i find), i had one earlier today that came back past me. and when did i say ricochets were pleasant?! ricochets and .22lr's go hand in hand. if you want to totally cut out any risk from ricochets then no-one should be shooting a 22lr within 1km of a town, house, road, foot path - basically anywhere that theres the possibility of a ricochet doing damage, not just a camp site. and how many people do that? im sorry, im not being flippant here, but thats just the way i see it. edit - should also add that as well as houses, towns, etc, livestock should be included too then... Edited August 22, 2009 by babbyc1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Its OK to say that its difficult to prevent ricochets, but that would not be any defence if you caused damage to a person, livestock or property. Its the shooters responsibilty to ensure they operate safely. If that means you don't shoot within 1/2 a mile of property, persons, or livestock, then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 If it was that quiet that I could hear the gun shot I think I'd have shouted next time the quad went quiet. I'd have no issues shooting that close to the site, but strictly in the other direction only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 This last week i have been camping with the family on a very nice site and all was peaceful and quiet until wednesday night at 23.10 when i heard the sound of a quad in the field next to the campsite,they had harvested this field during that day,anyway i am sitting there outside the tent when i heard the quad stop and the unmistakable sound of a silenced .22 I was slightly alarmed at this as it was so close to the site(about 150 yds max)I listened to the quad stop 4 or 5 times and 4 or 5 shots.I couldnt tell exactly what way they were shooting but i soon found out as the inevitable happened with a .22lr.There was the phhhut quickly followed by a bullet zinging over my head and across the campsite Now i dont know how high above my head but that doesnt really matter,but it made me duck (as you do) and made me very alarmed by now. What would you have done in the same situation ?? Not having a pop here but there were several shots fired (safely presumably) and the quad stopped several times before a stray zinged in your general direction. Was it obvious there is a campsite there? If you had a quiet word the next day that sounds realistic if the bullet genuinly zinged in your immediate vicinity, but are you absolutely sure the sound didn't carry the zing a bit like it did the phut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.