Mungler Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Why waste that much money proping up a species that doesn't want to be propped up. I'm with Darwin. My view, let 'em go. Auction off the remaining ones in captivity to Chinese herbalists - it would make enough money to save all the elephants, rhinos and tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I absolutely agree with Packham's logic. However, with the panda as the figurehead for so many tofu-eating charities, I think it's unlikely the species will be hung out to dry. By natural extension, however, you could argue that heroin addicts don't want to be propped up, nor do sheep and other species that struggle to cling on to life. And if we want to talk about evolutionary cul de sacs, what about Wales and/or Mersea Island? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I absolutely agree with Packham's logic. However, with the panda as the figurehead for so many tofu-eating charities, I think it's unlikely the species will be hung out to dry. By natural extension, however, you could argue that heroin addicts don't want to be propped up, nor do sheep and other species that struggle to cling on to life. And if we want to talk about evolutionary cul de sacs, what about Wales and/or Mersea Island? sheep are useful though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyRS6 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Why waste that much money proping up a species that doesn't want to be propped up. I'm with Darwin. My view, let 'em go. Auction off the remaining ones in captivity to Chinese herbalists - it would make enough money to save all the elephants, rhinos and tigers. Lovely creatures, but I agree Mung. Money could be spent elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 sheep are useful though Especially in Wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 But the art of Kung Fu might die out if they don't prop up the Pandas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I'd agree with that, only if we can say the same thing for certain parts of Africa. If a species can't survive in the habitat it lives it then it should be allowed to die out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 You could probably make a bit selling the last few off, as trophy shots to wealthy hunting clients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I'd agree with that, only if we can say the same thing for certain parts of Africa. If a species can't survive in the habitat it lives it then it should be allowed to die out. There's a lot of species that can't survive in their own habitat, just fetch the Pands over here and give them a house and benefits, they'll breed like wildfire then, seems to work for others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 i think if they were left alone, they would do just fine. Evoloution has not selected them to become extinct, humans have made that choice for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I'd agree with that, only if we can say the same thing for certain parts of Africa. If a species can't survive in the habitat it lives it then it should be allowed to die out. of course i think if they were left alone, they would do just fine. Evoloution has not selected them to become extinct, humans have made that choice for them. the biggest problem is theres no habitat left for them in china (or very little), so if they were left alone theyd be gone in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 evolutionary cul de sac ?? Wales ?? thats rich coming from a man who lives in Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 evolutionary cul de sac ?? Wales ?? thats rich coming from a man who lives in Norfolk Oh there's lots of evolving going on in Norfolk, just usually between relatives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Don't be mean about Pandas. I relate closely with them. ......I only have sex once every five years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 There's a lot of species that can't survive in their own habitat, just fetch the Pands over here and give them a house and benefits, they'll breed like wildfire then, seems to work for others of course the biggest problem is theres no habitat left for them in china (or very little), so if they were left alone theyd be gone in a few years. Just in case anyone was in any doubt what I was inferring, I was talking about Human Beings in Africa...... I'd glady voted for letting the human population in Ethiopia die out in favour of letting the animals there take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 evolutionary cul de sac ?? Wales ?? thats rich coming from a man who lives in Norfolk Yes, it is possibly a little rich, bearing in mind that I am so inbred, that I actually look slightly like a panda. But that is still better than being Welsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Just in case anyone was in any doubt what I was inferring, I was talking about Human Beings in Africa...... I'd glady voted for letting the human population in Ethiopia die out in favour of letting the animals there take over. i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 This forum is brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! from pandas to a full blown war between Wales and Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The Chinese use pandas as political "gifts," albeit expensive ones. When the gooks "give" a panda to a foreign zoo as an offering of friendship, the beneficiary has to pay "rent" to keep the animal, on the basis that it's a tourist attraction. I say, chain it up and make it dance. Then sell it to a bear-garden to fight mastiffs. To the death, obviously. By the way, Edward I had the best method of dealing with the chug-nuts that hang on to England (Welsh and Scots, you know who you are)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Somebody should enter this thread for the Booker Prize - Oh hang on, that's only for fiction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Somebody should enter this thread for the Booker Prize - Oh hang on, that's only for fiction just enter the site itself then, if its for fiction we'd win hands down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 You could probably make a bit selling the last few off, as trophy shots to wealthy hunting clients funnily enough if hunting them was allowed it would probably save them, much like species in Africa when they're worth mega bucks for the yanks to come over and shoot people stop persecuting them and encourage healthy poplulations. p.s I'm worried you were watching a programme with Chris Packam on Mung or does he have an attractive co-presenter who makes it worth watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 of course the biggest problem is theres no habitat left for them in china (or very little), so if they were left alone theyd be gone in a few years. i mean if human had not interfered in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 i mean if human had not interfered in the first place. I blame Chairman Mao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Can i just say "Eats, shoots and leaves" and get my coat please?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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