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The rabbits are getting more spooky, they all seem a bit further away (100 yds seems more like it now..) and after 10 years plus I've finally decided to try HV's instead of Subs in my rimfire. I love the noise and initial results are that they're much harder hitting (obviously) with the couple of bunnies I shot but I was shocked at how much I had to change the zero, I went 16 clicks down and they're still a tad high at 60 yards so I guess I have a zero of about 75 yards. Did half a zero job last night as it was a bit windy so a bit more work to do on that one. The ones I'm using are Winchester Lazers as I had some lying around, no other reason. Anyone else made the change? What do you zero at, do you notice the longer range and how do you get on with accuracy? I hear and see loads of reports and advice on which subs are best but which HV's do you favour? Any advice/thoughts appreciated!

I hope this may save someone a few quid - Clulite are offering 20% off all orders placed on line this weekend, just enter the code MAD20 in the vouchers section on check out. Fill 'yer boots!

I have to say I'd never shoot anywhere near as close as 250yds from someones house unless they knew and approved. The noise alone should be reason enough not to, surely. Sorry, but I believe the householders are right to complain, shot falling in their gardens or not.

Tragic whatever the circumstances, and a sobering realisation that what we do can be and is very much deadly. I go out with a friend regularly, both shooting the same land. The real danger seems to be when climbing over stiles/gates etc. while together. On many occasions you never realise where the barrel ends up pointing until a You cannot be too cautious, don't just rely on the safety - I eject the round in the chamber and so does he, it's the best way and only takes a second or two.

Yes, they are even though they may not look it. However... the foam neoprene type uppers tear incredibly easily then you have a problem. If you have brambles or climb the occasional barbed wire fence you'll regret having them which is why so many people here suggest something else. Aigle Parcours for me after trying 2 pairs Muck Boots and both pairs lasting less that 3 months..

Aigle parcours. Trust me.

Have a care with the Muck Boots, I had a pair (Derwents I believe, with the neoprene leg bit) and I struggled with them. Really heavy, felt like walking around with a load of mud stuck to the soles, and the worst thing was that you only have to touch some barbed wire or even some thorns and the neoprene gets really easily easily torn. Now have a pair of Aigle Parcours and they're far better in my opinion. Sorry if I've put you off, but fore warned is fore armed and all that.

Trouble with buying boots on line is knowing what fits you - in my experience having travelled around trying lots of wellies from lots of shops the different makes all interpret sizing differently. I'm a size 9 UK, euro 43 but I had to go up to 46 on some before they'd fit. Incidentally I ended up with Aigle parcours 2 from Mole Valley, just under £100 and 43 fits perfectly. Bloody good boots too!

Good grief, that's all we need. My dealings whether good or bad with 'ordinary' police officers has not been at all good. Let's just say that the FLO's were usually a bit older, a bit wiser and had a bit of common sense...

In a world where it seems it's increasingly difficult to get anything like good service, can I just say that I ordered a battery and charger from Cluson yesterday at 3pm and it arrived this morning. They suggest deliveries take between 3-7 days, I think they more than exceeded my expectations... Well done Cluson!

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FEO is, as already done, is the best advice. I wouldn't bother with the 'ordinary' police, to understand the situation you're in requires intelligence and understanding. From all dealings I've had with them unless you're incredibly lucky you'll get neither.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't help but feel that people selling targets and showing a picture of a target in the shape of a human is somehow wrong. I was scanning through ebay today and came across one and I thought why not have a circular type target, an animal even but a human - it just doesn't seem right. I don't want to link directly to it, but if you search sporting goods, hunting, targets you'll see some. What do you think?

I shoot left handed (even though I'm right handed.. yep I'm strange) and notice that on those rare occasions where you fire without the ear plugs in it's always my right ear that goes 'numb' and rings, never my left which is nearer the gun.

It's not been the same since Clive left and went to Sportsmans in Exeter. Mind you, to be fair most retail staff get not a lot more than minimum wage so finding someone that is friendly and keen these days is quite rare.

I have around 5 that I go to regularly, along with a potential 20 more that I have 'joint' access to with my chum. I find that if you spread yourself too thin you end up letting people down, best to get a manageable amount of decent permissions to see you through the year (all round crop protection - the farmers like this) or you end up losing them. This has happened to me (and my buddy) who have naturally lost a few by simply not turning up for a year or two... Incidentally I find the best shooting (rabbits with the rimfire) is on those problem permissions you get asked to look at by the farmer who wouldn't usually have someone shooting it, usually on rented ground predominately grass. I've had most of mine exclusively (I don't do sharing unless it's my buddy, a recipie for disaster and a lesson hard learnt) for over 13 years.

Well since posting this topic I mentioned I had guns whilst renewing my existing home insurance. They just got back to me with the revised figure (they had to refer it to the underwriters as I had guns) - £100 more per year please. No thank you I replied. Called another insurer - gave full detail including the guns and got a better level of cover for a saving of £150! Lesson learnt. Gun unfriendly broker was a big circus animal with a trunk. Gun friendly broker was the name of a group of people working together with a view to co operation who also do funerals.

I've never mentioned about having guns with my household insurance policies, ever. Nor have I been asked. Do you, or have you?

As said, they sound about right to me. Thing to do is phone 3, from where you live it'll probably be Avalon (Street), Sportsmans (Exeter) and West Country Guns (Wiveliscombe), and ask what price they want for the cartridges in the quantity you're looking for, they well may have some on offer or suggest a few at different prices. Don't make the mistake I used to make of just going in and buying them, you'll be amazed at the better prices you may be offered simply by asking.

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I wouldn't be surprised if the story was true. I fear that these days we can no longer assume the police are correct all the time and this is the type of thing I could imagine them doing. Let's face it, the law as someone else has already mentioned now firmly appears to be on the side of the accused being guilty until proved innocent. Whatever the situation around this, the police will close ranks and stand firm, they won't admit they were wrong and will become (if this escalates to a complaint) evasive and obstructive. My guess is the 'friend' will give up what seems like a lost cause and just go about his business. I, having had dealings with them recently when I was the victiim of a crime, do not trust them. Sad but true.

Interesting site, some decent stuff there too. A bit concerning that they list self defence spray and handcuff keys though!

What I've noticed about this year is that it's still so dry it's made life a lot easier! No muddy claggy tiring fields to walk across - I went out yesterday across my permissions and didn't even wear wellies - just shoes. I can drive up the tracks and even across fields that would usually require a muddy walk. I can lie down and use the bipod without getting wet and muddy. It's so dry out there it's like summer, it's very weird. On one permission there are a couple of small ponds which are still nearly empty and there's an old derelict canal that is dry in the summer but always fills with water in the winter as the water table rises - it's bone dry and I can walk on the bottom of it.

I've been using Pigeon Special (Lyalvale?) 30g 6's but have been getting a lot of shot but run away ones. Tried 32g 5's (Fob) today and they're definitely better. Gushop bloke said that 4's would be better but he also said you'll have to use full chokes - no good to me as I'm fixed 1/2 and 3/4.

I don't appreciate the insult. End of conversation.