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motty

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  1. I hear the same old bull being spouted as fact. It annoys me. Steel can be used in most guns and can be used with chokes tighter than half, in most instances. Far too much misinformation and scaremongering regarding steel.
  2. I first noticed stubbles that I could shoot on around the 12th of July. Since then I have upped my recon in hope of some good bags. My shooting pals have, also. I have covered many hundreds of miles checking fields and then checking them again. This has also eaten up a lot of my spare time. Here are a few words about my subsequent days out in the field. 19th July. After a lot of driving all morning, the last chance saloon for myself and Gerard was on a small rape stubble. We didn't expect much and the afternoon went as expected. It was slow going in the hide, so Gerard moved to an area further across where some birds were flighting. This upped the bag somewhat. We finished with 37 and 3 ferals. 21st July. I was unable to shoot with Jules the day before, so he put me onto a rape stubble that looked fairly promising. He had shot 76 on another rape stubble (on the 20th). He was a little disappointed with this as there had been thousands there just prior to the field being cut. I dismissed another good looking field on the way to Jules' suggested destination, thinking that there may be a slightly stronger flightline there. My normal setup of close-in decoys and magnet was used, with a small net on the edge of a dyke. I was using some Rio 28gm 7.5s in fibre. They worked very well, knocking down some satisfying pairs. My fairly recent acquisition of an A350 semi auto was working well (I had previous issues with cycling, probably due to not being run in). This field had only been cut a couple of days before my shoot. I reckon a 150 bag may have resulted if it had been left a few more days. As it was, I was more than satisfied with my bag of 90 pigeons and a rook. 23rd July. This turned out to be another hard earned bag. After emptying the freezers and having a trip to the game dealer, I drove a lot of miles again in search of a good field to shoot. Jules was waiting in case I could find something. Again, my last real option was where I decided to go. Jules met me there. We set up a hide in the middle of a small rape field. The magnet was placed slightly to the left with the wind at our backs. There was a trickle of birds, but things were never hectic. Jules was using his new 20 bore semi again. He fancied a change and has been doing well with his new gun. We both shot some nice birds. The final tally was 70 pigeons for the afternoon. 27th July I was off to check some farms some distance away, but on the way I remembered a lone block of rape fields that I had completely forgotten about. I went straight there to see if they had been cut. They had. Most of the blocked had been cultivated, but the bit that I wanted to shoot had been left. As I drove across I put off close to 2000 pigeons. I set up immediately. The conditions were awful, with steady rain and very strong winds to contend with. I struggled to keep my brolly upright. I quickly fulfilled an order for 25 steel shot pigeons and carried on for a while. Bunches of 100+ pigeons were swirling around, and some would decoy. I persisted for a while before admitting defeat. The conditions were not good and the pigeons agreed. I picked 41 pigeons. 28th July I managed to get a half day off work at short notice as Jules had a field up his sleeve. He had shot the field 3 days previously, bagging over 150 before getting caught in some torrential rain. This rape stubble is right next to a busy main road. The wind was up again, typical of late. I'm not keen on shooting in strong winds, as second and third shots can be almost impossible as the pigeons flee the first shot. Unfortunately, the field had been spread with slurry before we started shooting. It smelled pretty unpleasant. On the plus side, the flight lines were strong. Dozens of birds bypassed us, but it didn't matter, as enough were paying a visit. Occasionally, we would see clouds of pigeons lifting in the distance, showing where those passing birds ended up. Along with the woodpigeons, we had frequent visits from a local feral population. If we had wanted, we could easily have scored three figures on them. They were left alone when the woodies were around. They provided an added bit of fun. We shot from around 12.30 - 5pm. We accounted for 189 pigeons and 33 ferals. 31st July I had the day off work so I looked around for pigeons. I found a few back on the rape stubble that I shot on the 27th. The fields were being worked again, and they looked akin to ploughed fields. I didn't have a proper set up, but decided to stick a few shells out while I sat in the ditch and flighted a few. I shot 9. It was 30+ degrees, but the wind was really strong again. I was there an hour. I noted where they were coming and going and decided I would shoot there the next day, unless Jules could come up with an alternative. 1st August We did get back on the rape I shot yesterday. I was optimistic, but didn't expect too much. Jules joined me once he had finished work. I had the hide around a convenient telegraph pole and I used my usual starting set up. I had around 10 down by the time Jules sat down in the hide. There was a nice flight line that came over a small industrial area and another that followed a small river. More birds than I expected showed up. Again, this shooting was never hectic, but it was a very pleasant outing. We both had some nice long shots and had a few laughs. We finished with 92 pigeons. 2nd August Gerard was invited to shoot with me this afternoon. Again, the wind was strong. I found 500 feeding between a couple of rape fields. Sadly, after putting them off, the flight never really got going. Many seemed shy, possibly indicating they had been shot recently nearby. I let Gerard do most of the shooting with his modified .410. He shot some nice ones. It wasn't an extended session. The bag was 36 pigeons and a crow. 5th August The 28th was fantastic, but today topped it. Jules had seen some strong lines going to a wheat stubble. He kindly invited me to shoot it today. We were in position by 10am. It was slow to begin with, but we wanted to be there for when the pigeons really started coming. When they started coming, they came in thick and fast. I can't complain about the shooting, but the wind was too strong again! We shot a lot of pairs, but we would have taken 4 or 5 out of several bunches if the wind had been kinder. Never mind! The shooting was as good as it gets; decoying in groups of 10 plus, and high flighting birds with or against the wind. Every shot in the book was given and we both shot well. I was especially pleased with some of my long range pairs with my Saga 1oz 6.5s. The amount of birds was a joy to behold. Despite the huge volume coming to us, there were similar flighlines we saw going to other nearby fields. I never get bored of seeing pigeons in those kind of numbers. By 5pm we had already tidied up most of the pigeons. The cartridge pick up was annoying, but necessary. We finished up with 307 pigeons and 12 ferals. What a day! 8th August I looked yesterday for somewhere to shoot today. The best I could come up with was a week old rape stubble that had about 300 birds down feeding. I knew where the flight lines would be if I shot there. Gerard joined me for a shot. I was expecting 50 or so. We set up by 11am after having a bit of a look. Gerard was using his other modified (doctored/altered) gun. He was also trying out some of his experimental (subsonic?) home loads. The pigeons were wary. There were at least two other sets of shooters out, and maybe this had something to do with it. Still, we had a decent amount of shooting. We would have shot more if we weren't trying different cartridges etc. We ended with 42 pigeons and 6 ferals. Well, that took me a while to write. Thanks for reading!
  3. Totally agree. Why some seem to want to make things difficult for themselves is beyond me!
  4. I see no problem in eating any of the decoy birds, whether fly blown or not.
  5. I would tend to agree, except I wouldn't have a roof or try to make the hide look like a Bush. You really could do with investing in more nets. Shooting in the middle of a field is often the best place.
  6. I am not too surprised that the retired gentlemen were already set up. Where I am, some very good shooting could be missed by setting up that late.
  7. Totally agree. If one was lucky to be able to shoot at Sandringham, just outside Kings lynn, you would have some of the biggest numbers of birds in the county. Move to other areas of the county and you would struggle for such consistent numbers.
  8. Judging by the huge bags I see posted regularly, there is certainly no shortage. When I get round to it (later tonight) I will do a write up of my outings since the start of harvest. Again, well done to Stuart on a great bag!
  9. I have seen no shortage of pigeons. Leicestershire is a good county for pigeons, so I understand. Maybe you have an inexperienced eye, or you don't look over a big enough area.
  10. A good read. I agree that you should venture out more frequently.
  11. More top bags, ST. I find 50 in a hessian sack is not easy when laden down with all the other kit.
  12. You're starting to get the hang of laying the birds out properly!
  13. I would put any 3" factory steel through any 3" magnum proofed gun in sound condition.
  14. Sorry, but no one is forced to buy one.
  15. As Jdog says, it isn't strictly necessary to match your background. However, I like to try to a certain degree, if I can. Today I set up a hide in the centre of a rape field. The hide was of a sandy colour. We shot 70 pigeons.
  16. Maybe we could do a little deal.
  17. I don't believe that most folk go out to try and get a certain score. More like they try to shoot as many as they can and have a certain expectation when a good looking situation arises. I know when a bag just shy of 1000 was shot last year, the chaps knew they were on for a big score and made sure they had enough cartridges. It was shot on a normal stubble field.
  18. I actually think that Archie's record bag has been bettered by many people. The best man at my dad's second wedding has bettered it at least twice. Big bags are taken more than ever as the population of pigeons increases. I see regular bags of 400+ posted elsewhere. Incidentally, I shot 90 pigeons today on a rape stubble. Many pigeons were homing right in on the magnet. I even had a couple of adult birds land about 3 yards from it.
  19. I have never considered Geoff Garrod as one of the country's top pigeon shooters. He shoots a good few, but certainly not in the realms of the big bag boys. His sticks up the bum pigeons don't look realistic, but I don't think realism comes into decoying that much. I don't agree about loads of birds flairing off due to magnets.
  20. Thick plastic wads are usually required.
  21. Tss is twice as dense as bismuth. It is far superior on long range stuff.
  22. You would be correct. I have, on occasion used 8s or 9a to good effect on pigeons. They will kill at 40 yards if the shot is aimed squarely.
  23. We may still be using lead. No laws have been passed.
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