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Miroku,

I do not think wildfowling is in decline, but i think some areas of the country are seeing changes in wildfowl activity and some of these areas a drop in wildfowlers clubs members / visiting as a direct result. But overall i think we are holding our own.

Distance anything from 5 mins each way local to 40 mins to three hours 30 to 150 miles to the east and 21/2 to 31/2to 4 hours to the west 130 to 180 miles . Not counting Scotland which can be 4 hours salway to 10 or more right up north . Traveling is just an inconvenience in wildfowling Its the most expensive aspect of the sport for me if i lived over the west coast i would save a fortune on diesel and think i could just about satisfy my hunger for the sport over there without venturing east anymore.

Dont think you will have any trouble, the 56Es are a nice light little OU but most side by sides are as light if not lighter so think that load or any typical 7/8 factory load will be fine in it. The Baikals at 53/4 lbs is not typical Side by side 20s they are heavy built things the baikals.

Not heavy recoiling out of Baikal SxS 26 inch . 5 3/4 lbs

Nice set up and i think in some sittuations ideal, but in cases when a simple quick to use layout is needed, i use this i made on 15 years or more ago still use it to this day and is one of the best things i have ever made or bought in my opinion. http://www.varmintal.com/abifu.htm

Hope you find a cartridge you are happy with but remember there is more to recoil than just velocity and pressure , a big contributor to felt recoil is GUN FIT if the gun has long enough stock and fits you well the lack of physical mass in the weapon might not be as relevant as it first seems.

I used them a few times in my side lock and they did not register as heavy on recoil, but im old now and come from a time of heavy loads in wildfowling go to 3 inch load was 1 7/8ths oz years of such loads mean recoil is there but it dont register as anything out of the ordinary. But i get what you are saying they are lively agree and the do work good.

Use Leather riding gloves majority of the time , i have done years now, wool is warm even when wet but they dont grip well enough and neprene ok but never seem as warm as natural leather to me. but will admit in the wet i do like neprene in rain its probably best compromise in such conditions.

Not sure if they are \still about but 18 months or so ago i got 6K of some Jocker LAs , these were bought at 150 a thousand , still got 4 k so i am ok for a year or two yet. Looking at prices now i think i can add £50 a thousand at least by the time i need some more ammo. Anybody seen any of those jockers LAs about nothing special but the work ok, interested to know if still around.

Update! Another aquaintance of mine did buy this truck, £185 in belts bolts and idler and it all turned out fine for him with around 4 hours of is time putting it together one stuck caliper and a buld in headlight and its up and running, Seems to run nice he just took it up to Inverness wildfowling last week did over a thousand miles in it with no issues. So i suppose it goes to show you can be lucky sometimes. It was the condition of the crank threads that i was scared of, and also i was not comfortable the L200 was what i wanted in a 4x4 knock about. More i look around more i am tempted to just buy another teranno may be a SWB comercial van cheaper tax and big enough for my needs now the children have grown up.

It looks a nice\ car but those looking at it in the pictures do not look that happy they all got long faces. Sorry ill get me coat. LOL!

Fibre wads can mean the typical a fibre wad all by itself just dropped on the powder maybe compressed a little the shot added and crimped, this is the way many manufacturers do fibre. This is cheap and simple but it may or may not impact on performance /velocity / patters this as touched on here already , and can be bore chamber sensitive to some extent in some guns. If you want reliable fibre wad ammo that crawls all over plastic wadding even beating it you need to do more to ensure effective gas sealing from the very start of the combustion proses. Inverted card cups over powder felt then harder fibre wad section and undershot cards give little if any disadvantage to the plas wads, to such loads if you wrap and buffer things get even better. Fibre wadding works as well as the attention to detail you give it, as a wad its no better or no worse, and if you add inverted cups with little else you would have good reason to boast they will work in anything and perform better. Try a few on your equiptment with inverted cups this is the way to go with fibre wads and in itself is a good place to start to sort out any fibre problems that might exist.

Is the recoil aspect of the o/us weight over the SxSs relevant now? . Back in the day when i shot trap 32 gram or more then yes recoil was an aspect, but now they shoot 24 gram dont they? a 6 1/2 lb game gun IF IT FITS YOU! Should be just fine.

Thats frightening 5K for an old escort in a plastic mac . LOL! My uncle had a Rickman ranger had a 2 litre OHC GXL Cortina engine in it , Twas frightening in most ways like handling stopping fuel noise and of course acceleration.

Looks similar to Rickman Ranger and not that diferent to the old sj410/ 413

I think the Side by side is still alive and well, and if anything i agree with a post above i feel there are more about now than 10 /20 years ago on shoots.

Thanks all. I have walked away Had a couple of hours reading this morning , i have read enough in vinces words life is too short. Going TOYOTA nothing else is of any interest too me now. Thank you >

Sadly the terrano i had 15 years and needed just service items got hit by a bus when parked in town , and was written off. I tried to get the salvage but inssurance were having none of it, so im on the look out but it seems these L200s are not a good idea.

Yes and this one good or not has the real potential to get expensive. researching parts price just now on ebay show pulley and aux belts £60 Timing and balancer shaft belt another £50 not looked at idlers etc yet but the crank bolt alone is £20 with new key way and washer. crank i see is good on the keyway groove. Its the threads im not 100% on. Any good news on these trucks some one must have some LOVE!

Point taken and appreciated.

Changing careers is always unnerving time, and you can only do what you think is best. From my stand point i am coming up 60 and still not sure what i wanted from a career, i like above ended up chasing money and i tend to regret this now kids growing up me away they are not young long and soon gone making their own lives. Just a couple of things to consider as i see it , i wish you all the best whatever you do.

This is my initial thought, but i am up for a spring project and buying >>>> is a way to get one, but not knowing Mitsubishi L200s at all looking for input on the issue outlined and L200s generaly. but thanks vince and i get where your coming from and i could well do just as you say the way i see this right now.

HA HA thanks chilly i really want a pickup this time, 15 years of Terranoship have left me with nothing but praise for Nissan , but not sure on Mitsubishi . .

😀 Springers are awesome .