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Exactly this - was reading about a grouse moor owner who is now stopping grouse shooting and the management and filling the moor with wind turbines All the moaners are crying about this now - i said be careful for what you wish as the grouse moor management brings the vista and so much life Its like how they moan about hunting - if we had not had it we would have so many fewer habitats

You are fast on the trigger LB Was going to say exactly the same thing Sometimes the odd birds - 2 ,3,4,5 get damaged as they fall from the sky - hit a tree or even have a dog pull them dead from cover - but even those can make a meal If you went on a shoot as you describe no wonder you dont like it - i wouldnt either

I would go further and say - most who love seeing the little birds shoot jays What did you not like Bruno ? - just interested - if a little nosey !

Thighs have far more taste Wings re the best taste - but fiddly

Thats good to hear - and its totally up to you regarding jays One of the biggest predators to ducks and ducklings is rats

Without a shadow of doubt stunning - all nature is really - a magpie in full bloom is amazing Up here the jays work the woods in packs - flitting from tree to tree in relays looking for opportunities

It depends what you want from your perms really i suppose I want to give the little farmland and woodland birds the best chance i can - i have seen jays take full nests of chicks - eggs the lot - They are in my opinion specialists of the woods with their cousin the magpie more of the hedge - garden menace

As bad or if not worse to be honest mate

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Hello mate Do you mean a contact Rim fire ?

As above - must have a camera system - may even log people in and out ?

Shooting does more to protect these species than all the pen pushers put together

Awesome !!!

Good on you Redoing ours tomorrow We use a board cable tied with a scaffold "end" that fits into a scaffold pole

Wow - they are cheap ! Ours will be £5

hundreds and hundreds up the shoot today

And i think maybe will do again Gordon

Yes maybe name and shame within our community ? Same for shops and brands that try and ban our lives ?

Always been good in my experience

@Conor O'Gorman Maybe BASC can help at grass roots level

Hi 30-06 I have seen all sort of reaction when a fox is hit Rolls over Jumps up Drops and then stands Usually when hit - yet tail up but not always If your mate is using thermal or NV and the fox has no idea about where the bang came from its possible it has come back I have had that happen a few times - usually where i shoot one of a pair and the other goes into cover and then comes out later

Sorry mate - dig not make it clear I had the Dam No the Dog never sired a litter before or after The dog i used had not either but he walked into the garden and that was it - sorted Sorry i have just re read your post and you have the dog that has sired before - that is most odd and apologies i have not heard of that

Yes we had it before with one of our cockers He simply could not do it Day later another dog and sorted

At the moment i believe many members of the public - maybe not aligned with shooting - accept the need to control pest species I wonder if they were put on the list as a quarry if many would then think it was just something else to shoot as so many term it ?