albob Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) you can keep then in the same just need another small one for ammo and bolt unless it has a locking top on the cleaning of your 22lrs i never clean mine once in a blue moon but i did read or get told which makes sense really but the only way your barrel will ever be the same is by cleaning it ie after one shot its dirty add another and its got even more dirty but if you cleaned it after every round its the closest it can get to being the same and with shooting consistency is the main point ? is that from a target shooter?..you can get the same consistency by not cleaning it. imagine being in a field with rabbits(heaven i know) and you shoot one,have to clean the gun,then wait till the rabbits show,as they now know your about. not feesable is it.i thought cleaning it regular would help but,have found that why clean it when it shoots so well..as they say,if it ain`t broke etc.. have stuck to this regime and it as proved itself many times and others do the same. al Edited January 26, 2010 by albob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berthaboo Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i understand what your saying and i understand where they are coming from just thought i would bring it up with regards people talking about the cleaning of there rifles to see what peoples opinion was on the matter you would not find me carrying my cleaning rods / gear around its hard carrying myself gun and ammo around the fields with out more stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Never clean my .22LR and it will shoot a gnat's nuts off at 60 yards. For those who say cleaning maintains accuracy, I beg to differ. I used to shoot in a team and never cleaned the rifle and I got consistent 1/4" groups at 25 yards. It's all about sending a couple of barrel warmers down the range before you start going for the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) Sorry mate but I'm not going to help much here either. I have slots for FAC Air and .22LR on my FAC.I bought the .22LR first and just love it, if I end up a bit flush one month and there's a deal going on a second hand FAC I'll probably get one and see if I can get my garden cleared for FAC Air so I can use it on pigeons and squirrels in the trees. LR's are just so good at what they do, the debate rages on about whether HMR or LR is best but I think they're the ultimate rabbit killer, mainly because they're so quiet I swear mine dry fired makes nearly the same sound or you can stick some supersonic stingers through it and zero at a hundred yards (you could take some big bushy tailed "rabbits" with that). HMR is louder and more expensive but easier for a beginner to shoot as it flies flatter for longer - you're probably aware of a similar trait for .177 vs .22 air pellets. As for cleaning, I find if I clean my rimfire barrel then the first 10 or so shots will be a bit all over the place so now its just the externals and the bolt that gets a wipe over. Would also mention that you can have carbines in rimfire, mine has a 16" barrel and without the silencer on won't stand up properly in the gun cabinet as it's then too short to reach the rack but with rimfire there's no compromises unlike the loss of power/shot count/accuracy that you will get with Air (even more so with FAC Air). Edited January 27, 2010 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) i understand what your saying and i understand where they are coming from just thought i would bring it up with regards people talking about the cleaning of there rifles to see what peoples opinion was on the matteryou would not find me carrying my cleaning rods / gear around its hard carrying myself gun and ammo around the fields with out more stuff i know you knew but,i was curious also to see why target shooters clean after every shot,as i understand it,i thought they are not allowed to do anything to their guns after shooting or until they finish? imagine cleaning your gun after each shot hunting.the rabbits would have multiplied a hell of a lot whilst cleaning. bit off topic sorry. al Edited January 27, 2010 by albob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 i know you knew but,i was curious also to see why target shooters clean after every shot,as i understand it,i thought they are not allowed to do anything to their guns after shooting or until they finish?imagine cleaning your gun after each shot hunting.the rabbits would have multiplied a hell of a lot whilst cleaning. bit off topic sorry. al I don't know any target shooters who clean after every shot, and I certainly never did, but no doubt some may! Ammo is regulated in competition (at least it was when I used to compete), it was ALL lead, no copper coats, these cause much more grief up a barrel. But like I said, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Simple fact is if you clean a rifle correctly it will take one or two shots to get the zero back spot on, and this is nothing to do with laying down lead deposits up the barrel, that only causes grief, it is to do with flushing the barrel clear of all cleaning/solvent/oil deposits...that doesn't take 10 shots! ATB!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 you can keep then in the same just need another small one for ammo and bolt unless it has a locking top i was allowed to keep my .22lr ammo in my sg cabinate when i got my fac but i have since upgraded but that was my choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldogg Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I shot .22 target rifle years, mostly indoordoor but outdoor as well, & ago we had some UK competitive shots within the club. I not never recall ANYONE EVER cleaning a .22LR. That situation may have changed but I am still friendly with guys who shoot .22 competively & they dont clean either. cheers M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I had to clean my Anschutz semi-auto regularly or the action jammed. I wouldn't be so particular with a bolt action rimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Have heard Ruger 10/22 's are a 'dirty rifle' due to 'blowback' and will need a regular clean. Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 why not have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 why not have one correct.. get 2... al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Have heard Ruger 10/22 's are a 'dirty rifle' due to 'blowback' and will need a regular clean.Any comments? as you can fire more rounds in less time and ejecting just as quick,it will neeed more cleaning than a single shot due to these factors and in some cases the rounds you fire can be dirtier than other types of ammo. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Have heard Ruger 10/22 's are a 'dirty rifle' due to 'blowback' and will need a regular clean.Any comments? yep they get dirty, bolt/receiver/top of mags needs cleaned after every heavy session, well mine does anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I have read a couple of items where some folk are cleaning their rimfires & mods using white spirit as a solvent. Are these just mad Americans or do they know something we dont? If any one can enlighten me that would be great as I would have thought the branded gun solvents would be more 'specialised' for the job and therefore more suitable. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I have read a couple of items where some folk are cleaning their rimfires & mods using white spirit as a solvent.Are these just mad Americans or do they know something we dont? If any one can enlighten me that would be great as I would have thought the branded gun solvents would be more 'specialised' for the job and therefore more suitable. cheers. I clean my mods with white spirit, when they need it, but with the LR it gets cleaned once every six months, and I use the thing quite a lot. I bought a second hand 10/22 with a mod, which was around six years old, and very well used. The mod had not been cleaned from new, and when I stripped it there was not a lot to remove, and what was there was a little crusty and broke off easily. The 10/22 was a complete dog, and had been given no TLC at all. It got the full strip and rebuild, all the grit and grime was removed, and it even looked half decent when I had finished, but it was still ammo fussy, and was really just a very clean complete dog. I chopped it in for a bolt action and never looked back. The LR is a lot cleaner than the HMR or centre fire, and the deposits are no where near as corrosive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 JUST BOUGHT A CZ 452 'STYLE' FROM 'ORIGINAL SAD LAD' WITH PARKER HALE MOD AND AGS 4-16X50 SCOPE ALL FOR JUST £270 VERY PLEASED WITH MY BUY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT ZEROED AND READY FOR ACTION. CHEERS SAD LAD!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Sorry guys this may sound stupid but I thought you couldnt own a riffle unless you had a FAC, and that the only way of getting your FAC was gaining land and getting permission etc. I would love to get a 17HMR, used one and to be honest i really like it, but i have no land where i have permission to use one, hence why i have not gone for the FAC as yet and still searching for land etc So are you saying that if i join a target club, i can apply for my FAC ? Also would i be allowed to use this if i went shooting with someone else who also held a FAC and had permission to shoot on the land or would i only be allow it for target shooting at that particular club Sorry if all a bit daft but im not 100% on the FAC rules at present Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) JUST BOUGHT A CZ 452 'STYLE' FROM 'ORIGINAL SAD LAD' WITH PARKER HALE MOD AND AGS 4-16X50 SCOPEALL FOR JUST £270 VERY PLEASED WITH MY BUY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING IT ZEROED AND READY FOR ACTION. CHEERS SAD LAD!!!!!! Good for you :blink: Wish I still had my 452 great choice and don't forget .22 CB for short range, I even had .22 CCI shot cartridges for rats! When I done the auctions years ago I never seen a clean BSA Martini. Just make sure your bolt and trigger are cleaned and lubed for safety.. Paladin Edited February 6, 2010 by Paladin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 if you want a rimmy,dont get a .22lr,get yourself a nice 17 hmr and be done with it :oops much better than a .22lr a bit more expensive to run but better. i am now bracing myself for a beating from the.22 clang :blink: lol The club I shoot at won't allow 17 hmr... It would be a nice thought though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I shoot AA 410 CLASSIC .177 and a superb gun it is,accurate to 40 yrds+,80YRDS on targets only with it i have gained a lot of permissions for rabbits and had great success and even more fun.Since getting my sgc i and a mate have done a lot of farm shooting with his cz22lr and his 17 and i am just blown away by the cz 22,what a rifle i couldnt praise it enough and will definate be my next investment,should have every gun i will everneed then,air rifle for smaller gardens and paddocks,shotgun for pigeons and cz for rabbits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 The NSRA advice is to clean your .22 after every 400 shots or so to prevent lead build up but I know most shooters don't. I clean my .22 because I keep it in the loft and I'm afraid of rust. Well, to be honest, I don't clean it but I give it a squirt of WD40 before I put it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I thought you couldnt own a riffle unless you had a FAC, and that the only way of getting your FAC was gaining land and getting permission etc. You could join a Target sports club, after your probationary period you can apply for an FAC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The NSRA advice is to clean your .22 after every 400 shots or so to prevent lead build up but I know most shooters don't.I clean my .22 because I keep it in the loft and I'm afraid of rust. Well, to be honest, I don't clean it but I give it a squirt of WD40 before I put it away. I read somewhere that WD40 isnt good for rifles for some reason........ A good gun oil also had rust inhibitors (napier) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 I read somewhere that WD40 isnt good for rifles for some reason........ A good gun oil also had rust inhibitors (napier) It's not good for air-rifles as it can reduce the life of the seals. In a rimfire it's ok as long as you don't think of it as oil. It's a water dispersant (WD), nothing more. So it's good for driving any water out of threads but in a barrel where's it going to drive it? Out the top? I don't clean mine everytime I use it but when I do, it's brush then mop with a little gun oil on it. I'd avoid WD40, 3 in 1 is a better cheap spray option if you want to go that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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