Delbert Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 This week I was sorting through the 'magazine' and found an odd tracer . So in a spirit of serendipity I thought I'd get a box as my return to clays has been shall we say underwhelming. I popped into Branthwaites to be told they were no longer available due to the risk of fire- I wouldn't shoot any haystacks honest but is nobody making them any longer (and no I do not mean .762 nato rounds incendiary , just plain old 12 bore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA-airgunner Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 i didnt think they were legal in the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anni Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Maybe it's me but I feel thats cheating a little You couldn't miss if you could see the where the shot was going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 You're talking about the shotty tracers which I've used before. Last time I was at the RFD they had some. The rifle tracers are now banned, because the EU (Yes, they ban everything) banned the use of the phosphorous in a nitro cellulose factory. Basically, there's too much risk of fire... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 They are still available on just cartridges, but be prepared to spend a lot of money, they certainly aint cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartshot Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I havent used them yet but a friend of mine gave me a hand full to try out and I noticed on packet that it said risk of fire. Dont think ill be taking them pigeon shooting, be barbequed by the time they hit the floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 they are brilliant - you can miss ten clays in a row - put a tracer in and hit it. - no wiser now are you Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted March 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 they are brilliant - you can miss ten clays in a row - put a tracer in and hit it. - no wiser now are you Dave Yes its not unknown in these parts in fact a certain party suggested it would be easy to clean a layout by using them exclusively. Because I have done the vast majority of my shooting over the last 15 years walking up over dogs I tend to be a snap shooter when I change to maintained lead or swinging through it all goes pear shaped because my shooting is instinctive I'm not quite getting the sight picture in my mind past experience tells me a box of tracers will put me back closer to the groove, the other alternative involves a afternoon at North Wales SS and a lot of shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 I tried a box about 25 years ago. The tracer never seemed to follow where the actual shot went, unless shot streams bend. They were made by Nike (Nitrokemia) from Hungary - I think. Complete waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Always take someone with you if you do decide to use them, 'cause if you are firing the gun you can't tell exactly where the tracer goes, if your eyes are where they should be. (on the clay).The person stood right behind you will be able to assist. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltsmark Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 £850 1000,...............yep thats right or £25 a box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C. Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I used these many years ago and found them of little use . Because of the way your eyes work you can only use them to judge shot for going away targets. If you try them with crossers you will get an a misleading impression of where the shot went relative to the target . It is rather like a missed rabbit where everyone will say you missed behind when you actually missed in front . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I wish i missed in front!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I tried a box about 25 years ago. The tracer never seemed to follow where the actual shot went, unless shot streams bend.They were made by Nike (Nitrokemia) from Hungary - I think. Complete waste of money. Yes, you'll learn nothing from shooting these, as Gordon says the tracer appears to "bend", a complete waste of time. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silhouette Posted March 28, 2010 Report Share Posted March 28, 2010 I was told some time ago the tracer part of the cartridge was actually the wad and NOT the shot charge. Makes sense as the tracer needs the hot flame from the powder to ignite it. Therefore what you see in tracer is the wad and not the shot. And as we all know the wad and shot part company quite early on and go their seperate ways during flight. So tracer cartridges are a complete waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 There must be a type of specialist shot that has similar weight to steel or heavier and is also combustible, then you'd be able to see more accurately where the pattern is going. What are the laws on tracer cartridges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 If you miss - try something different! Remember what you are doing and where you are shooting and then repeat if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10WM Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Yes its not unknown in these parts in fact a certain party suggestedit would be easy to clean a layout by using them exclusively. Because I have done the vast majority of my shooting over the last 15 years walking up over dogs I tend to be a snap shooter when I change to maintained lead or swinging through it all goes pear shaped because my shooting is instinctive I'm not quite getting the sight picture in my mind past experience tells me a box of tracers will put me back closer to the groove, the other alternative involves a afternoon at North Wales SS and a lot of shells. Hi Delbert, I am newish to PW and live not to far away from NWSS, If you can get a day off in the week I will meet you at NWSS and stand behind you as I can most times see where the shot is going, and promise I will have you zeroed in on any of their clays within a few shots. If you are really chuffed you can buy me a pint. I'm free most day's Monday they are closed. Dont waste any money on tracers mate. a few boxes of shells and you will be sorted I Promise you. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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