pigglet Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I've unashamedly pinched this from another site, courtesy if si243 It describes a reliable way of zeroing a rifle for the first time without the need for gimmicky stuff like collimators and laser boresighters. It's the method I was trying to describe in Lez's thread but this is much easier to follow than my inarticulate ramble http://www.ehow.com/how_4720820_zero-rifle-one-shot.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 (edited) I've unashamedly pinched this from another site, courtesy if si243 It describes a reliable way of zeroing a rifle for the first time without the need for gimmicky stuff like collimators and laser boresighters. It's the method I was trying to describe in Lez's thread but this is much easier to follow than my inarticulate ramble http://www.ehow.com/how_4720820_zero-rifle-one-shot.html If you read the article you still need to use some sort of bore sighting device, you can't zero a rifle if you can't see where your first shot landed! But great piece. Wish I'd read that before I went through 20 rounds of Federal Powershok doing mine!!! Edited May 25, 2010 by Vipa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Excellent webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigglet Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 If you read the article you still need to use some sort of bore sighting device, you can't zero a rifle if you can't see where your first shot landed! But great piece. Wish I'd read that before I went through 20 rounds of Federal Powershok doing mine!!! Oh no you don't Follow step 5 to boresite. I usually do this at 30 - 50 yds with an orange dot target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevouk Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 That would be a good 'sticky' for beginers learning to zero..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 OMG..............how simple is that! The ammo I must have wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 I've posted this method a few times,I've been using it since the mid 80s u,do have to adjust ure scope a little up or down as the cones in ure eyes are at a diffrent angle if u change to standing from zeroing prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camel Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 not to be splitting hairs - but thats 2 shots..... *apologies in advance* i too have seen people use 10-12 shots and still not sure if its zeroed..... in Target Rifle, there is a slightly different method - but 2 shots is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 not to be splitting hairs - but thats 2 shots..... *apologies in advance* i too have seen people use 10-12 shots and still not sure if its zeroed..... in Target Rifle, there is a slightly different method - but 2 shots is the way to go. . Only if ure inexperienced,after I've zeroed on the bench I wind up 2 clicks becase I know that's right for me. I still check it after sometimes when things just don't seem to go right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushat Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Not sure quite how people zero scope and take 20 shots?? For me - one shot - wander down the range, measure vertical and horizontal distance from bull (with a rule rather than guess), back to rifle (barrel now cool ) corresponding number of clicks. You're on zero. Another shot or two for confidence and you're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Not sure quite how people zero scope and take 20 shots?? For me - one shot - wander down the range, measure vertical and horizontal distance from bull (with a rule rather than guess), back to rifle (barrel now cool ) corresponding number of clicks. You're on zero. Another shot or two for confidence and you're done. That's how I do it too. It seems to work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 Having zeroed in many rifles over the years I am pretty good at estimating how many clicks it will take but there is a weakness in the technique. The first shot of the day from a stone cold clean barrel usually goes to a slightly different place compared to subsequent shots. However a very good technique and thanks for posting it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 What if your first round is a flyer?-or the first round since you cleaned/oiled the bore?what if your scope/mounts are loose?-I would,nt feel confident relying on just one round to check the accuracy of any rifle-4-5 tells you a much more reliable story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 If you can bore sight and if your scope turrets work and if you have a gun vice and if it is a still day and if and if and if and if..of course...and its 2 SHOTS anyway (you gotta check)......for most mere mortals it will take a couple more shots!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 What if your first round is a flyer?-or the first round since you cleaned/oiled the bore?what if your scope/mounts are loose?-I would,nt feel confident relying on just one round to check the accuracy of any rifle-4-5 tells you a much more reliable story. isurely by firing 4-5 ure adding another variable,for those with sporting barrels ,the barrell is gonna heat up and ule start drifting,my tikka .223 was a nightmare for that,it were spot on clean with 2-3 shots after that it would drift right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 isurely by firing 4-5 ure adding another variable,for those with sporting barrels ,the barrell is gonna heat up and ule start drifting,my tikka .223 was a nightmare for that,it were spot on clean with 2-3 shots after that it would drift right. Patience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 isurely by firing 4-5 ure adding another variable,for those with sporting barrels ,the barrell is gonna heat up and ule start drifting,my tikka .223 was a nightmare for that,it were spot on clean with 2-3 shots after that it would drift right. This is quite true with a lot of centrefire rifles with "sporter" barrels. My Bruno.222 gets quite hot (And expensive to feed) and the group starts to open up if I use it for "rapid firing" (i.e. 5 shots in under a minute or so). To avoid this try to put yourself in a position that you would usually use your rifle in, like fox shooting where you would not shoot anywhere near as rapidly leaving several minutes between shots. When zeroing your centrefire all you have to do is allow a short time between shots for the barrel to cool down a little, be realistic about things. As has been said on the previous post "Patience is a virtue"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 it always seems to take me 20 or so rounds to finish a zero session as I often get distracted and want to play around with the new scope or rifle (even though after a couple of rounds its bang on!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 it always seems to take me 20 or so rounds to finish a zero session as I often get distracted and want to play around with the new scope or rifle (even though after a couple of rounds its bang on!!) after zeroing the 22 recently i wasted 40 rounds sniping dandilions growing on a bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Where others choose to say it with flowers,ozzy says it with stalks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 after zeroing the 22 recently i wasted 40 rounds sniping dandilions growing on a bank She loves me she loves me not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 Are Dandelions vermin according to your local police ? Is your gun enough to secure a humane kill ? !! Plinking is good certainly good fun to test zero etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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