Paul223 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 bbc news, 11 people shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 on news now saying he is using a shotgun, hope they catch him soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongodriver Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 could this be 'have a final clean of all our toys' we might be handing them in soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinTop Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Horrendous! I'm sure this will eventually have an impact on anyone with a Shotgun Licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 **** just up the road from where I'm at today, I'm staying in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 like others have said - my thoughts are also with those who have been shot -but i hope to god thats not a legally held weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 sounds like he's shot himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death from below Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Just before 1400 - have received my first text message joke about the Cumbrian incident - I swear there must be somone out there who sits in a dark room waiting for tragedies/events so they can send jokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 sounds like he's shot himself somewhere in boot, and it sounds like it was a rifle/pistol rather than a shotgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 wish he would of just shot himself in the first place instead of taking all those innocent lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Looks like they've found his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 One of the dead is a farmer!! Condolences to all involved!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Yep he has been found dead in woodland - firearm close by, apparently a farmer was shot dead along with 10 others in the face, so not a nice sight for those who found them. They are already talking about gun control, typical nutters spoil it for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJN Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Where would they get a photo like that at such short notice? driving licence, passport they all have digital photos now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 could this be 'have a final clean of all our toys' we might be handing them in soon? Please don't forget, semi auto centre fires, assault rifles and even pistols have no justifiable place in private ownership. Target shooting is/was a concession not a necessity. Deer management, crop protection, pest control are all necessary evils and the tools for the job are shotguns/rifles. It is highly unlikely that they would be banned as the countryside and animals and farmers would all suffer..... won't happen! What may happen is what my mate has been wittering on about, that the establishment may not in the future see punching holes in paper as a realistic and necessary reason to own firearms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well said Vipa, it will depend whether this was a legal firearm or not we don't know. If it was legal then they will look at why he had a ticket and what went wrong in the licensing procedure and whether any lessons can be learned. So far no one has suggested he has a ticket AFAIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 wish he would of just shot himself in the first place instead of taking all those innocent lives ZB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safetyfirst Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Well said Vipa, it will depend whether this was a legal firearm or not we don't know. If it was legal then they will look at why he had a ticket and what went wrong in the licensing procedure and whether any lessons can be learned. So far no one has suggested he has a ticket AFAIK The simple fact is that there is no cast iron way to prevent this from happening. I'm sure the FEO who gave him his ticket would attest to his fitness to own a firearm, sometimes people just go mental, there's no accounting for it. We have an incredibly low rate of gun crime in the U.K and a very sensible (for the most part) licensing system. But if there are guns in the country, people will be shot with them, simple as that. Altering the requirements for legal gun ownership will not alter any of these facts or make anyone any safer I dont think. Some of the victims families don't even know their loved ones have been shot yet. What a tradgedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 My guess is he's a SGC/FAC holder, I hope not for the sake of all us law abiding cert holders. Condolences go out to all of the families affected by this loon. SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 They think they have just found his body, he has shot himself..... makes you wonder what goes on in peoples minds shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 My heart goes out to all those involved. Just heard the senior officer state that there will be an investigation focusing on a number of areas. These did not include where he got hold of the weapon. I hope it was illegaly held, but I still think this will cause a back lash. Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. It's bad when the best is 11 shot by mad man with illegal hand gun. Again my thoughts are with his victims and their families Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 sounds like he shot his mother as well. 955 I think you'd still be deep in the doo doo unless you were out shooting and threatened at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 My heart goes out to all those involved. Just heard the senior officer state that there will be an investigation focusing on a number of areas. These did not include where he got hold of the weapon. I hope it was illegaly held, but I still think this will cause a back lash. Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. It's bad when the best is 11 shot by mad man with illegal hand gun. Again my thoughts are with his victims and their families We can speculate all day but until the police release the facts we will not know the facts. Eye witnesses state they saw him with a very big shotgun hanging out of the car window which would point away from a handgun, a doctor who certified the deaths of 2 victims stated they had shotgun wounds.... I fear that if it's a shotgun it will turn out to be legally held and, if that's the case, we will have some sort of public and political backlash and quite possibly a tightenning of the SGC thumb screws, maybe even going down the NI line and making all firearms, SG or FA fall under one stricter FAC! I wouldn't worry however about SGs and rifles being banned outright, as I have previously pointed out, they are valuable tools with few if any alternatives, we may however see target shooting (and for that matter even clay shooting) removed from being legitimate reasons to possess.... I hope not but past UK government actions would certainly point in that sort of general direction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 (edited) My old mate from Cumbria phoned me; He knew the bloke who did this. Attended his Dive Club at Whitehaven. Knew him as a fisherman and scuba diver but he never talked guns or shooting. Divorced but took his lad swimming regularly. Said what we usually hear "normal sort of bloke etc". Edited June 3, 2010 by Cranfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Police have said that they've found his body in woods and have removed a shotgun from the scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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