FAC help

[12borejimbo]

I need your help boys, I have just had my FEO round about a complaint at the golf club I used to shoot at (stopped due to complaint) basically this woman rekons I shot her horse and the husband had a bullet go past his head!! exactly. Anyways, I have just had row with my mum over something rediculous becasue she was in an extremely bad mood and needing a rant, and she answered the door and asked him a few questions, saying "should I be shooting across the footpath that runs accross our driveway and into the meadow beyond that where there is a house", now I DO NOT shoot here, I may shoot an air rifle at night on the meadow no where near the house, or sit under the tree shooting pigeons which is within the legal boundaries, but now my mother has made the **** hit the fan, to my suspicions of trying to get one over on me. He has also come to clear the land around my house and some more fields away from it. But now I get the horrible feeling that - with this woman complaining and my mum becoming the devil that I may be getting my license revoked, which I am devastated at, but when this complaint happend I had the keeper with me who had taught me to shoot, so this is my backup. We dealt with the situation calmly and the keeper (Jono) actually praised me saying I dealt with it well when he would of told her where to go. She actually came running onto the course when we where parked up having a smoke and I said maybe she has lost her dog, lets make her aware we are here and that we are shooting. We fired 1 shot into a safe backstop and kiled the rabbit we shot at, but the woman said we fired 2 shots and both bullets went onto their land.

Now either she is dead anti shooting or just likes to stir the pot.

What is your advice as im lost and generally feel betrayed and a bit upset.

Just to put you in the picture my Mum and Dad are going through a real rough patch. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. Thanks.

[Katash]

I need your help boys, I have just had my FEO round about a complaint at the golf club I used to shoot at (stopped due to complaint) basically this woman rekons I shot her horse and the husband had a bullet go past his head!! exactly. Anyways, I have just had row with my mum over something rediculous becasue she was in an extremely bad mood and needing a rant, and she answered the door and asked him a few questions, saying "should I be shooting across the footpath that runs accross our driveway and into the meadow beyond that where there is a house", now I DO NOT shoot here, I may shoot an air rifle at night on the meadow no where near the house, or sit under the tree shooting pigeons which is within the legal boundaries, but now my mother has made the **** hit the fan, to my suspicions of trying to get one over on me. He has also come to clear the land around my house and some more fields away from it. But now I get the horrible feeling that - with this woman complaining and my mum becoming the devil that I may be getting my license revoked, which I am devastated at, but when this complaint happend I had the keeper with me who had taught me to shoot, so this is my backup. We dealt with the situation calmly and the keeper (Jono) actually praised me saying I dealt with it well when he would of told her where to go. She actually came running onto the course when we where parked up having a smoke and I said maybe she has lost her dog, lets make her aware we are here and that we are shooting. We fired 1 shot into a safe backstop and kiled the rabbit we shot at, but the woman said we fired 2 shots and both bullets went onto their land.

Now either she is dead anti shooting or just likes to stir the pot.

What is your advice as im lost and generally feel betrayed and a bit upset.

Just to put you in the picture my Mum and Dad are going through a real rough patch. If you have any questions please feel free to ask. Thanks.

 

If she maintains the bullets landed on her property, it would not be unreasonable to ask her to produce evidence to support her claim. may be a good idea to speak to your FAO and inform him you think an anti is setting you up.

 

Similar thing happened to me when I was a kid (12-14 ish) and was shooting my air rifle in my garden .... A neighbour (a copper) accused me of shooting into his garden with pellets lodging into his garage door and hitting him on the leg, when my parents went round to talk to him he produced a handful of pellets that had obviously been flattened with a hammer and explained he had dug them out of his door. My father's response was to produced a handfull of the pellets from his pocket that I was actually using that day and when compared side by side it was obvious to anyone that the 2 were different brands. The guy started to backtrack something terrible and started stuttering and getting very flustered but my dad insisted he come round our garden and inspect the trejectories .... It was pointed out to him that the airgun would have had to be sufficient power to penetrate a full size railway sleeper, garden shed (complete with contents)and a hedgerow ... After then make numerous 90 degree turns and retain enough energy to penetrate a steel door.

 

I had no problems with my SGC application a year later.

[al4x]

first impression bloody silly idea to fire a shot to let her know where you were,

[dazza]

first impression bloody silly idea to fire a shot to let her know where you were,

 

Exactly. It would have been a better to have gave her a verbal indication you where there rather than fire a shot which probably scared the **** out of her. Always two sides to a story.

[vmax55]

sounds to me we not getting the full story

[garyb]

lets make her aware we are here and that we are shooting. We fired 1 shot into a safe backstop and kiled the rabbit we shot at

 

Did you fire to make her aware, or did you fire at a rabbit?

 

In my book...NO shots should be fired when members of the public are seen on the ground whilst lamping.

[955i]

sounds to me we not getting the full story

 

[Dekers]

Your FEO came round after a complaint!!! What did your FEO want, what did he say, what did he do?

[tinytim38]

[12borejimbo]

I shot at the rabbit then drove round the field, parked up to roll a smoke then she was running around the field, so then I drove over to her.

[12borejimbo]

Your FEO came round after a complaint!!! What did your FEO want, what did he say, what did he do?

Showed me the letter and to hear my side of the story really.

[mossy835]

and what happened, what did he say.

[Gordon R]

You may be a genuine smashing lad. If you are, forgive me.

 

I cannot comprehend, of any circumstances why any sane person would fire a rifle just to let a member of the public know that they had a gun. I would have been down the Police Station to report you so fast that you might have got a nosebleed.

 

Then we have your mother's alleged gaffe. A less charitable person might be tempted to ask if stupidity ran in the family.

 

We seem to be being drip-fed little details rather than the full script. If things are exactly and fully as you said, I think you will be in bother.

Edited July 23, 2010 by Gordon R

[Bluebarrels]

You may be a genuine smashing lad. If you are, forgive me.

 

I cannot comprehend, of any circumstances why any sane person would fire a rifle just to let a member of the public know that they had a gun. I would have been down the Police Station to report you so fast that you might have got a nosebleed.

 

Then we have your mother's alleged gaffe. A less charitable person might be tempted to ask if stupidity ran in the family.

 

We seem to be being drip-fed little details rather than the full script. If things are exactly and fully as you said, I think you will be in bother.

 

 

Sorry but my thoughts too :o BB

 

Very difficult to believe your side,when your Mother is twisting the knife BB

 

I would never fire a shot,when any member of the public is about,it really aint worth the hassle

[12borejimbo]

I think people are getting the wrong idea, we shot a bunny, drove around the field then the woman came running from the other side of the woods looking for us, I drove over as I thought something might be up or she might of lost a dog, and she then rekons I shot her horse, what she has heard is the crack of the HMR go off. Its all sorted now, spoke to FEO and he said he doesnt care what my mum has said as he has seen it before, he knows im alright and ive got witnesses to prove, so all seems well.

[wildfowler.250]

first impression bloody silly idea to fire a shot to let her know where you were,

 

exactly

[Gordon R]

I think that is because that is the way you wrote it up in your first post. You saw her, then you shot. Now it is the other way round. Is it any wonder? :o

[Lez325]

first impression bloody silly idea to fire a shot to let her know where you were,

 

 

I agree 100% I fear there may be troube ahead ( for you that is not me) I dont shoot warning shots - terrible idea :o

 

Les

[Mungler]

You may be a genuine smashing lad. If you are, forgive me.

 

I cannot comprehend, of any circumstances why any sane person would fire a rifle just to let a member of the public know that they had a gun. I would have been down the Police Station to report you so fast that you might have got a nosebleed.

 

Then we have your mother's alleged gaffe. A less charitable person might be tempted to ask if stupidity ran in the family.

 

We seem to be being drip-fed little details rather than the full script. If things are exactly and fully as you said, I think you will be in bother.

 

 

 

As above. And you're screwed from the off if your mum's not going to read off the same page as you.

[Alanl50]

Hope its all ok with you Jim?

I think most older shooters have all done stupid things that perhaps they shouldnt have! and 20-30 years ago nobody batted an eyelid at it and most people on here seem to forgot there stupidities of there own youth, hindsight is a wonderfull thing, as is the experience that maturity brings but times have seriously changed now we all have to be squeaky clean, our actions make us or break us

I hope for your sake your post was just poorly written and not as it read.

A lot of my land has paths and bridle ways across them I always shoot away from them, but as soon as I spot joe public my gun goes in it slip, I often find them walking off the foot paths where they shouldnt be, I still do the same thing my gun in its slip.

I suggest you lower your profile in your shooting areas causing you grief.

I have land which although is good, it is extremely difficult to shoot because of paths, houses to close in my opinion for the noise of a shotgun, its not worth winding up the locals and making them into ANTI=SHOOTERS, a Hushpower is my next purchase for these areas.

Think before you act or before you speak or post write up on here.

Alan

[Mr_Logic]

warning shots are never a good idea. Shouting a greeting to someone is a better one, nobody can say you were unsafe then.

 

In terms of this woman's complaint, seems like it's made-up BS. Simply because if you put a bullet in a horse, you have one of two things - either a. a dead horse, or b. a ******* big vet's bill, and a vet to back up your claim. This woman clearly had neither, ergo she's talking rubbish.

[Gordon R]

The problem with all this is that we get 10% of a tale. We get "facts" which are later re-arranged.

 

You are correct - either the horse was shot or it was not. Which is it?

 

Either the woman was seen and a shot fired or a shot fired and the woman seen. It's like a murder mystery.

 

I honestly tire of people asking for a genuine opinion and then giving incorrect or easily misinterpreted facts. Why do they never give the full script from minute one and remain consistent.

[utectok]

My advice move out and get your own pad you sound old enough to afford a arsenal of guns so give your folks a rest and pay some rent !!!

[vampire]

James,this woman is maybe a 'little' concerned about her horse and maybe herself if you did fire a shot to let her know you were there and she has good reasons to be alarmed if you view it from her point of view.

I dont beleive that you have shot her horse for one minute as you would be more than interviewed by the feo,so what ever is happening over there i would strongly suggest that you STOP shooting on the golf course and review YOUR actions,learn a lesson and move on.

atb,Karl