Damp cabinet issues

[maverick123]

The cabinet is located in my office room under the stairs, there is a continual temp in there but all my guns keep developing rust specks?! i have just bought some silica gel packs from the net but is there anything else i can do?!

 

seems a shame as they were in pretty good nick!

 

cheers

[mattslaptop247]

you need a napier vp90 pouch, about £5 off ebay

[HDAV]

I have a VP90 sachet in mine, came free with a voucher in my cabinet seems to help, some people use a small dehumidifier or reptile heater in theirs have a search, also try to dry guns before putting them away

[mattslaptop247]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/N12-Napier-Airgun-Su...=item53e3536099

[maverick123]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/N12-Napier-Airgun-Su...=item53e3536099

 

i dry and clean them religiously, i have probably cleaned then more times than ive fired them haha. ill buy one of those patches too, i just dont want to put an expensive one in there till i know its sorted!

 

thanks both of you

[swiss.tony]

A radiator wood help me thinks move the cabint

[maverick123]

theres gunna be more anti rust stuff than guns in my cabinet at this rate

[turbo33]

A mate of mine some years ago had the same problem. He solved it by drilling a hole in the side of the cabinet and putting a low wattage bulb in there. One of those 15watt night lights will do, it gives off just enough heat and circulation to keep the damp off without being expensive on electricity. As he used a red one, it had the added bonus of looking like some sort of infra red alarm

[maverick123]

A radiator wood help me thinks move the cabint

 

i live in an ancient house, dates to 1300 so i have no straight walls for mounting apart from this one in the extension, there is a radiator in the office and its on all the time to regulate temperature. should that be enough radiator wise?

[suggs]

i live in an ancient house, dates to 1300 so i have no straight walls for mounting apart from this one in the extension, there is a radiator in the office and its on all the time to regulate temperature. should that be enough radiator wise?

 

 

Give them a good coating of spray on gun oil before putting away

[wymberley]

A mate of mine some years ago had the same problem. He solved it by drilling a hole in the side of the cabinet and putting a low wattage bulb in there. One of those 15watt night lights will do, it gives off just enough heat and circulation to keep the damp off without being expensive on electricity. As he used a red one, it had the added bonus of looking like some sort of infra red alarm

As you can't move it for the reason given, this has to be the answer; a moving warm airflow. In case you've been tempted, do not use anything stuffed in the muzzles to keep the damp out - it'll absorb the moisture with the obvious result.

Cheers

[Paddy Galore!]

if your house is that old then it'll probably have solid walls (unless it's been remodelled) the damp might be coming in via the bolts.

You may be able to slacken the bolts off and squirt a bit of silicone around the threads to help seal the holes, also try to insulate between the back of the cabinet and the external wall, if the wall is permanently cold this will transfer directly to the back of the cabinet, then any warm air in the room is carrying a certain amount of moisture, as soon as you open the door you'll be exchanging the air, which is keeping this cycle running. otherwise you might want to move the cabinet so it's fixed to an internal wall. Or just dry line the existing wall with foam backed plasterboard, then re instate the cabinet. Not an easy option i know but it should sort your damp problem.

[J@mes]

Napier VP did nothing for my cabinet when I had to bolt it directly to an outside wall - so I put a 15w reptile heat pad in there with the guns, and run it in the winter. doesn't put out a lot of heat, but it completely stopped rust forming on my guns. Think it was about £14 from pets at home!

[Imperfection]

also try to insulate between the back of the cabinet and the external wall, if the wall is permanently cold this will transfer directly to the back of the cabinet,

 

This is what i thought too.Something like a fibreboard sheet inserted between cabinet and wall might be adequate to stop cold migrating through.

 

However,i do think the best option would be to move the cabinet somewhere else like an internal wall where the temperature is ambient.

[COACH]

If the stairs has an outside wall, put an air brick in it by the cabinet. Its air flow (circulation) you need to keep a cabinet dry, that`s all. Maybe a little blower/fan if not an outside wall. But always keep them oiled up with Napier or such like.

Edited September 20, 2010 by COACH

[Graham M]

I have a 15W tube in my cabinet and I leave it on for half an hour after putting my guns away if the weather is cold. The heat warms the metalwork and prevents condensation. You mustn’t leave it on all the time though because the heat will build up quite considerably, even with such a small bulb/tube, and will dry out your woodwork, which could cause shrinkage or cracks.

G.M.

[codling99]

just wipe guns wif a bit of wd40 after cleaning,works for me .

[welsh warrior]

grease on the barrels oil on working parts i dont care what any one else says about gun grease its the muts nuts its harder wearing that oil to i ue it all the time just a thin cover with a rag and jobs done

[DSPUK]

You can get a roll of silver foil type insulation - it's two foil sheets sandwiching a layer of what might be bubble wrap -- stick a layer on back of cabinet and put it back - then the bulb idea sounds good and could try drilling a few small holes in top and bottom to create air circulation.

 

Glad I don't get this problem - hope you sort it

 

dave

[ellebarto]

I have one of my cabinets in a cellar and damp has always been a problem. First thing I got was one of the napier gel pouches, which definitely helped but then I got a special cloth to give all metal parts the once over before storing.

 

I cant remember the name of them but there are these little clothes you get impregnated with some kind of formulae that protects against moisture. Silica clothes maybe. They were about £5 look like a duster and I bought 2 about 2.5 years ago and am still on the first one. They feel a bit greasy and when you give your gun a quick rub with them it puts a thin coat of whatever the formulae is on your gun. This combo has always worked very well for me.

[sticko]

I have one of my cabinets in a cellar and damp has always been a problem. First thing I got was one of the napier gel pouches, which definitely helped but then I got a special cloth to give all metal parts the once over before storing.

 

I cant remember the name of them but there are these little clothes you get impregnated with some kind of formulae that protects against moisture. Silica clothes maybe. They were about £5 look like a duster and I bought 2 about 2.5 years ago and am still on the first one. They feel a bit greasy and when you give your gun a quick rub with them it puts a thin coat of whatever the formulae is on your gun. This combo has always worked very well for me.

Try placing a bowl of table salt in the bottom of the cabinet, when the salt goes hard just replace it

[Canis]

Couple of product idea's to consider in relation to this problem.

 

Cigar cabinets (humidor's) have a humidity guage ( in keeping cigars you actually want to encourage 70% relative humidity.) a replacement guage should only be a few quid from a specialist cigar supplier. this would allow you to accurately monitor the situation.

 

 

Chemical Dehumidifiers- these consist of a hydrophilic compound un a plastic container incorporating resevoir to hold the moisture it removes from the air - as used in static caravans when unocupied in winter. last ones i bought cost about £5 for the compound and the

plastic container as a kit from B&Q

[vmaxphil]

have you thought of damp from the floor ? might be worth insulating it