the running man Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Nice but how do you show good reason for wanting one? paul competition,plain and simple, pp1 or tp1 as it is now,multi target even 1500 ! Check out galleryrifle.com I'm on there!the buckmark is a great little thing that allows us to stick 2 fingers up to the establishment. however I do know a guy who's got vermin control on his lbp! Which has made the guy a legend at our club! I'm sure it must be an oversight by his flo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katash Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 you thinking 22 or bigger? i am in 2 minds as 22 would be cheap to run but a 44 might be more interesting. I have experience of 3 Taurus LBR .22, 38spl/357mag & 44 spl/44mag .... I've considered getting one myself and initially thought "yea get a .44 mag for fun" but honestly the .44 mag is not fun, its too damn painful - 6 shots and I'm done. .357 mag is in my opinion better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I was under the impression that a number of high profile politicians etc have licences for pistols. I don't imagine the royal family would be any different. You would be suprised if you knew exactly how many people are still licenced to own and even carry pistols in Britain. After 9/11 the American government put pressure on tony blair because they wanted high profile American business men to be armed. Like everythng else where tony blair was concerned with the americans he rolled over and agreed. There are a couple of section 5 dealers in London selling pistols. How do they pay the rent and make a living? Not from a few Scottish gamekeepers thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daft dog Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Nice but how do you show good reason for wanting one? paul You ned to be a member of a approved gun club with an appropriot range. I am, just put in for a .38/.357 LBR and got it approved no problem - No questions ased. Only problem they are like hens teeth second hand and bloody expensive new. I'm waiting to find a decent deal on one. DD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I have experience of 3 Taurus LBR .22, 38spl/357mag & 44 spl/44mag .... I've considered getting one myself and initially thought "yea get a .44 mag for fun" but honestly the .44 mag is not fun, its too damn painful - 6 shots and I'm done. .357 mag is in my opinion better. When I shot pistol we all handloaded as it's so much cheaper when you're getting through a lot of rounds per week,hence I only put 'soft' target loads through my Model 29,and only fired 'full weight' magnums occasionally,if we were shooting at long range sihouettes(or turnips!).Even through my Model 19 and 586/686 I only loaded equivalent to .38 Special.You don't need full weight magnums for PP1/2. But I agree,the .357 is an all-round better load in my opinion.Must admit,I miss my pistols shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Would be really nice, but it's never going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) When I shot pistol we all handloaded as it's so much cheaper when you're getting through a lot of rounds per week,hence I only put 'soft' target loads through my Model 29,and only fired 'full weight' magnums occasionally,if we were shooting at long range sihouettes(or turnips!).Even through my Model 19 and 586/686 I only loaded equivalent to .38 Special.You don't need full weight magnums for PP1/2. But I agree,the .357 is an all-round better load in my opinion.Must admit,I miss my pistols shooting. Would have to disagree Loved my .44, lost count of how many rounds I put through it I also reloaded my own with a nice low/medium load for 25m indoor target and the odd full load when shooting on the range Now looking at the Taurus .44 with the (annoying) counterweight as I can't stand the standard brace thing. Powders have changed a bit since I last did this but looking at about 5.2g of Titegroup with a 240g lead semi-wadcutter for indoors Edited January 19, 2011 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC45 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 i am toying with the idea of getting LBR I just bought one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 i have always thought - emigrate- ha want a pistol, pistol shooting is always something ill be interested in, tbh they could keep track of all legal ones if they are on a fac, they should bring it back - i will get a LBR just to say stuff you, i had been thinking a pistol revival would be brilliant as sson as i saw that, in the mean time ill consider BP pistol and carry on with air pistol, no where neer as fun as i imagine, said it once ill say it again - as soon as something is made illegal you leave the supply to the criminals, loads of iconic pistols i would love to target shoot with, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the .44 phaedra,I spent a lot of money on .44's,great guns,and scored my first 10 'in the black' with a Ruger 'Bisley' Blackhawk.Great bit of kit.My model 29 was phenomenal on skittles,boiler-plate and turnips!Great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the .44 phaedra,I spent a lot of money on .44's,great guns,and scored my first 10 'in the black' with a Ruger 'Bisley' Blackhawk.Great bit of kit.My model 29 was phenomenal on skittles,boiler-plate and turnips!Great fun. i had a 686 red ramp,but had a bill davis on order when dumblane happened. ******!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algiz Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) You would be suprised if you knew exactly how many people are still licenced to own and even carry pistols in Britain. After 9/11 the American government put pressure on tony blair because they wanted high profile American business men to be armed. Like everythng else where tony blair was concerned with the americans he rolled over and agreed. There are a couple of section 5 dealers in London selling pistols. How do they pay the rent and make a living? Not from a few Scottish gamekeepers thats for sure. That could go some way to explain why so many handguns show up on the misappropriated firearms statistics; Between 2003/2004 Seventy four handguns were reported stolen from residential properties. I still think those figures are weird though, I mean to put it into perspective there are 1.4 million shotguns in the UK and maybe 100-150 a year get nicked.... Edited January 20, 2011 by Algiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 That could go some way to explain why so many handguns show up on the misappropriated firearms statistics; Between 2003/2004 Seventy four handguns were reported stolen from residential properties. I still think those figures are weird though, I mean to put it into perspective there are 1.4 million shotguns in the UK and maybe 100-150 a year get nicked.... Yes its surprising what goes on is it not,I wonder how the public would respond to a sun or news of the world exclusive story telling how there's over 65,000 pistols in legal circulation in this country? And in the hands of ordinary "at risk" people,ex army officers,ex mp's,former security services etc. Its worth noting that whilst there are issued pistols to such people,the actual number of folk who can carry them on their person at all times is considerably less than the amount of people authorised to have them for protection purely at home,or in the house. Last figure I heard was 20% of the 65k. I may be wrong (and often am!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algiz Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Yes its surprising what goes on is it not,I wonder how the public would respond to a sun or news of the world exclusive story telling how there's over 65,000 pistols in legal circulation in this country? And in the hands of ordinary "at risk" people,ex army officers,ex mp's,former security services etc. Its worth noting that whilst there are issued pistols to such people,the actual number of folk who can carry them on their person at all times is considerably less than the amount of people authorised to have them for protection purely at home,or in the house. Last figure I heard was 20% of the 65k. I may be wrong (and often am!) Bloody hell 65,000.... :o There were only 57,000 people who handguns on a section 1 ticket in 1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I personally don't like this defeatist thought-people talk about Blair bending over well by saying it will never happen oh well you are just bending over yourself. I for one am all for a full repeal END OF. And I am sorry if some snottie little **** can get a .38 S&W revolver and kill another kid with it or worse some kids in Liverpool dealing drugs and pimping girls are in possession of a 92F No I am not accepting that LBR are a true contradiction there is really nothing stopping you cutting one down and using that in a illegal format so what is the bloody difference. And looking at the US how do you think they can quickly play who done it? Guys and gals QUIT bending over seriously as all you'll be left with is no sport of any form and plenty of kids getting gods knows what like they are sweets. The other side of the coin is if this info about Westminster using handguns then shop em to the star ETC. Its about time OUR employees bent over to us of take a massive pay cut I.E their P45s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabbers Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 What happened to all for one and one for all? Oh I forgot, they were musketeers and we are breech loaders! What we forget when we protect our own branch of a sport that is interlinked by tradition and mindset with a bigger picture is that after the authorities and antis have done with one minority, they will set their sights on a bigger target; shot gunners and coarse fishermen. "A bigger target" Hey notice how all these old sayings refer to shooting? That's because this country and the world have got huge traditions connected with guns and yet this country has always been quite civilised, perhaps because of guns! I don't see any improvment since handguns were banned, in fact things seem a whole lot worse! It says it all in this thread; when they have banned handguns yet a select few 'gentlemen' can keep them for self protection; there lives are worth more than ours, you can take it as read that the same gentlemen who have a pair of matched Purdeys won't be throwing them in the smelter when they vote that you lose your right to own a shotgun and they will be sticking two fingers up at you when they are fishing for salmon with their Hardys of Alnwick fishing tackle and coarse fishing is banned. The handgun ban was a stupid law that has done nothing to make our country any safer, criminals still have them and you can't even bring a knife to a gunfight, they're banned too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vermincinerator Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Between 2003/2004 Seventy four handguns were reported stolen from residential properties. And that statistic is the very reason why there will never be a return to private ownership of handguns. One of the less cited reasons for the 1997 ban was to remove a cache of weapons which could, by burglary or theft etc..... fall into the hands of criminals. It might sound rediculous but it is one less source regardless of all the other sources and as an ex pistol shooter it disheartens me to say they are right. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I wonder how many shotguns are stolen on a yearly basis.Were the pistols stolen centre-fire,air pistols,blank firers,black powder,BB's etc? There doesn't seem to be any distinction between differing 'types' when it comes to statistics,which applies to 'reported' firearms 'incidents'.If a witness says they saw a firearm,it is reported as a firearm incident,whether substantiated or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I wonder how many shotguns are stolen on a yearly basis.Were the pistols stolen centre-fire,air pistols,blank firers,black powder,BB's etc? There doesn't seem to be any distinction between differing 'types' when it comes to statistics,which applies to 'reported' firearms 'incidents'.If a witness says they saw a firearm,it is reported as a firearm incident,whether substantiated or not. quite right scully,and as for the post above u,whilst I do sympathise with u,having a rifle or shotgun stolen is just the same as a pistol being stolen,as it can be "cut up" to make a pistol.so then ure back to the old argument of guns at home,a subject for another debate I'm sure...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 A new LBP will soon be available here based on the GSG 1911 .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 A new LBP will soon be available here based on the GSG 1911 .22 thats gone to the top of my wish list. who sells them and how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 THAT....is a lovely piece of kit.Almost identical to what was once mine,now unfortunately long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) A repeal of the Firearms Amendment Act 1997(No2) was part of the Conservative partys manifesto! Unfortunately after Cumbria theres little chance of them sticking to it :( Pity, as it would've been the first step to getting ALL pistols back Vote them in again next GE and it might be a possibility . . . . Mark Edited February 2, 2011 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 That LBP looks very much like the Ivor Johnson job thats on sale ATM I am told a 2 year waiting list. Looks great Will be interested I have a .22 LBP slot (NOTE LBP NOT LBR I am give the choice) This Government can still repeal that waste of space ACT ******** to what some **** did and What some ***** think If Sir this And Lord that can have them so can bloody I. And let look again LBP and LBRs just like ANY gun can be cut down for Illegal use. Let this government and the wasters at the GCN ban them all it doesn't protect them. And that is a Observation NOT any type of threat or Intention But I can see someone going mad about losing there guns and taking it out on them-The Illegal guns WILL ALWAYS be around full stop end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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