30-06hunter Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfvnniNZmqo&playnext=1&list=PL6729FD991E5B3E74%20. anyone fancy Hog Hunting from a chopper ? well you can in Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boristhedog Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Amazing total lack of respect for the animals!!!!! Quite sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Amazing total lack of respect for the animals!!!!! Quite sickening. 'ere we go again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 marksmanship was pretty awful, but they are a serious agricultural pest over there that are breeding like wildfire so you can understand helicopter culling. When you see it done well its pretty awesome to watch, can't say that was well done though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingbarn Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 it doesnt suprise me in the least these dum yanks, they reach a new low hunting each day ? im suprised they wasnt shooting rpg,s at them ? tut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Amazing total lack of respect for the animals!!!!! Quite sickening. have to agree, you get slated for shooting pigeons with 28g 7.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsm1968 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 'ere we go again +1 They are obviously doing a lot of damage to warrant the hire of a Helicopter to cull them. That last group that comes out is quite a big group of pigs to feed with a harvestable crop! I just love the attitude of it isn't done from behind a piece of old cammo net our way, then it's wrong. I doubt anyone in the UK has enough experience culling feral pigs to give an educated opinion/solution. Just get right in there with the "Dumb Yanks" comments. That said they could do with a bit of practice, and the guy with the hit counter needs his eyes tested as some were clearly misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckboy1 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Typical Yanks :o NO respect for there quarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodge911 Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 personally i find that terrible in my opinion how do they know that the animals are actually dead and are not dieing a long and suffering death they should at least follow up on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 Like I said... 'ere we go again... There ae those that find deer stalking disgusting and sickening, think shooting pheasant a disgrace, find shooting pigeon barbaric and shooting foxes just damned cruel. There are also those that find the killing of any animal for food abhorrent, they are called vegies and even those who think it is unnacceptable to farm animals for their milk... they are the Vegans.. Bearing in mind that something like 75% (and rising) of all abbatoirs now produce Halal meat to ensure the Muslim population aren't accidentally offended I don't think ANY of us are in a position to criticize someone elses hunting methods. This type of hunting also goes on quite a lot in South Africa simply because you just couldn't do it any other way, the areas are so vast. Us brits don't really have much idea as to just how small the UK really is, it would probably fit quite a few times into Texas alone and the areas these guys are shooting over could be hundreds of miles long. And before all you internet snipers start getting over excited... don't bother criticizing the marksmanship until you have tried shooting from a moving platform, especially on a steep downward angle.... It isn't easy at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) I'm not going to comment on the marksmanship - As has been said, those that want to comment on it should maybe try shooting from a moving vehicle first themselves and see how "easy?" it is! - The flip side of the coin tells me that if I wanted to do that I would want to brush up on my marksmanship first, especially if I were going to be videoed whilst doing it! As for sporting or lack of respect for the quarry that is questionable after watching the video even if they are classed as "vermin"! However, we have to think of the rate that the "hogs" breed and the damage they do to crops. I watched a program not long ago about the damage they do in the States and in Australia and the rate that they breed at, so heavy culling has to be done - In one instance they were using poisoned bait dropped from a plane. Culling from a hellicopter does seem to be a more effective way of locating them in cover like that shown. The shooter did seem to get through quite a lot of ammo for the amount of "clean hits" he got and from what I could see some of those shots that were actual "hits" were not too effective, could it be something to do with the calibre of rifle he was using? Now that we have wild boar in the UK how long might it be before we see them breeding and branching out to cause unacceptable damage to agricultural crops in this country, and if we do might we end up having to cull them in a similar manner? I'm not too sure that I would want to try culling from a hellicopter though even if it does look like "fun" and exciting! Edited June 5, 2011 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I actually have the DVD that's featured on here. Yes,marksmanship was not the best, but after they had finished in the helicopter, they drove out to the area and dispatched all the wounded ones. Another good thing about shooting the feral's, is that all the meat is sold at a very reduced price to less well off families. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 (edited) Like I said... 'ere we go again... There ae those that find deer stalking disgusting and sickening, think shooting pheasant a disgrace, find shooting pigeon barbaric and shooting foxes just damned cruel. There are also those that find the killing of any animal for food abhorrent, they are called vegies and even those who think it is unnacceptable to farm animals for their milk... they are the Vegans.. Bearing in mind that something like 75% (and rising) of all abbatoirs now produce Halal meat to ensure the Muslim population aren't accidentally offended I don't think ANY of us are in a position to criticize someone elses hunting methods. This type of hunting also goes on quite a lot in South Africa simply because you just couldn't do it any other way, the areas are so vast. Us brits don't really have much idea as to just how small the UK really is, it would probably fit quite a few times into Texas alone and the areas these guys are shooting over could be hundreds of miles long. And before all you internet snipers start getting over excited... don't bother criticizing the marksmanship until you have tried shooting from a moving platform, especially on a steep downward angle.... It isn't easy at all! I have done it from a seaking helicopter(but not animals!!!!!) and i can tell you it not easy :blink: Edited June 6, 2011 by markws80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I have done it from a seaking helicopter and i can tell you it not easy :blink: I've not tried it myself but I would imagine that it is much harder than it looks, which is my point about being careful about critising others about something that you have not tried or done yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Like I said... 'ere we go again... There ae those that find deer stalking disgusting and sickening, think shooting pheasant a disgrace, find shooting pigeon barbaric and shooting foxes just damned cruel. There are also those that find the killing of any animal for food abhorrent, they are called vegies and even those who think it is unnacceptable to farm animals for their milk... they are the Vegans.. Bearing in mind that something like 75% (and rising) of all abbatoirs now produce Halal meat to ensure the Muslim population aren't accidentally offended I don't think ANY of us are in a position to criticize someone elses hunting methods. This type of hunting also goes on quite a lot in South Africa simply because you just couldn't do it any other way, the areas are so vast. Us brits don't really have much idea as to just how small the UK really is, it would probably fit quite a few times into Texas alone and the areas these guys are shooting over could be hundreds of miles long. And before all you internet snipers start getting over excited... don't bother criticizing the marksmanship until you have tried shooting from a moving platform, especially on a steep downward angle.... It isn't easy at all! well said, back in the 90's I was involved in culling deer in the south island of New Zealand, this was done by helicopter, I can tell you it is anything but easy, I do wonder about some of the comments on here from some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I've not tried it myself but I would imagine that it is much harder than it looks, which is my point about being careful about critising others about something that you have not tried or done yourself! And some people get air sick :blink: ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I can't see a better way of doing them in numbers- did you see that cover! Have seen it done better though- without the safety harness to boot. Can i ask how many of the critics would be happy to not undertake such a cull if it were thier own planted crops they were bolting out of. Anyhow the music was good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazco2121 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 ******* yanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 ******* yanks Bit short sighted its carried out in many parts of the world, this is not done for sport but pest control no different than what we do... that is if you actually do any pest control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boristhedog Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 'ere we go again Vipa, my earlier post on here wasn't about marksmanship or whether shooting from a moving helicopter was right or wrong, difficult or otherwise. I wouldn't know as I haven't done it. It was based solely upon the clip's view of many seemingly wounded animals left lying on the ground. If, as one poster has indicated, these animals were subsequently dispatched speedily then my concern is abated somewhat. I'm still not too sure that the animals didn't suffer unnecessarily but at least some thought was given to their plight. I understand fully that we can never guarantee an instantaneous kill but we do try to make the kill as quick and painless as possible, and a rapid follow up helps make that possible when required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 personally i find that terrible in my opinion how do they know that the animals are actually dead and are not dieing a long and suffering death they should at least follow up on them. they do, on other vids (i have a home made dvd on it) they have a truck driveing round behind them picking them up, and ever put gps tags on the location of kills. their is talk about hireing the seat out to hunters, i know i would be first in the que to have a go at this! looks badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Makes me wonder how The Duncan can be banned from this site for a month for fake swearing yet the mods allow this display of cruelty to stay on the forum.Did somebody actually say that they later returned to finish off these wretched animals and consider that to be a saving grace? What would people say if i were to start using skeet guns and cartridges to bring down as many pigeons as possible and then wander around the field later on to finish them all off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 If you'd shot anything larger than rabbits you might appreciate that animals with adrenalin up do run. Though he wasn't the best marksman and the video wasn't good you might be surprised how many of those pigs didn't last long. I'm guessing and Doc will confirm that you probably get better with practice but its one of the hardest shooting platforms you will ever shoot from. But essential in some areas with the speed pigs breed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Scholl Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 If you'd shot anything larger than rabbits you might appreciate that animals with adrenalin up do run. Though he wasn't the best marksman and the video wasn't good you might be surprised how many of those pigs didn't last long. I'm guessing and Doc will confirm that you probably get better with practice but its one of the hardest shooting platforms you will ever shoot from. But essential in some areas with the speed pigs breed Places like Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and other southern states have HUGE feral hog problems. They breed like crazy, have few natural predators, destroy EVERYTHING ( and I mean everything) in the landscape and are very hard to hunt and manage in traditional ways. Large scale culls like this are 100% necessary to even put a small dent in the population, much less get rid of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Scholl Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 it doesnt suprise me in the least these dum yanks, they reach a new low hunting each day ? im suprised they wasnt shooting rpg,s at them ? tut You are just too stupid to insult... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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