markw77 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Hi, New to this site and to clay pigeon shooting. Really dumb question. I have a Baretta O/U with multi-chokes Which barrel should I have selected to shoot first? I thought it was the top one ( 2 red dots) but my son has used it and selected the bottom one ( 1 red dot). I have multi-chokes that were inserted by the gun shop and I think are 1/4 and 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 bottom first and go 1/4 bottom and 1/2 top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 usually works for most pairs but occasionally you might want to change. You will get to know when the main reason is that the firing of the bottom barrel will give less muzzle flip and make second target acquisition easier :thumbs: Welcome too! GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 It's not a dumb question, we all have to start somewhere and learn lots on the way. Enjoy from Auntie. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 :welcomeani: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I use 1/2 and 3/4 in my Lanber, and select the bottom barrel to fire first. Welcome to PW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Yet again a much debatable post on choke. So we think less choke in the lower barrel well consider this when on report pairs such as, First bird with trap placed 20 yards away and a fast going away clay...30 maybe 40 yards before you fire Report trap again 20 yards away and a fast driven clay....less than 10 yards before you fire now here you might want 1/2 to 3/4 on the going away and only cylinder or 1/4 on the driven. Now thats top barrel first in the normal setup. So depending on the circumstances depends on which barrel has which choke and which one you fire first. My Browning Special Skeet (fixed) has in fact less choke in the top barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Yet again a much debatable post on choke. So we think less choke in the lower barrel well consider this when on report pairs such as, First bird with trap placed 20 yards away and a fast going away clay...30 maybe 40 yards before you fire Report trap again 20 yards away and a fast driven clay....less than 10 yards before you fire now here you might want 1/2 to 3/4 on the going away and only cylinder or 1/4 on the driven. Now thats top barrel first in the normal setup. So depending on the circumstances depends on which barrel has which choke and which one you fire first. My Browning Special Skeet (fixed) has in fact less choke in the top barrel. I think you are trying to confuse the poor man. Bottom barrel first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Bottom barrel first. WRONG! :yp: It’s logical really but a very common mistake or more accurately one hardly anyone thinks about. Standard English game guns have ¼ & ¾ choke yet when shooting driven birds I’m willing to bet most guns fire the ¼ choke barrel first (at the bird furthest out) and follow up (if they need to) with the ¾ barrel (at a bird much closer). Never could understand why as the correct way would be to fire them the other way round, i.e. ¾ at the furthest shot then ¼ at the closest. You know it makes sense! Mind you you can get past all the confusion about chokes and just stick 1/2 & 1/2 in each barrel...no decisions to make then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markw77 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Thanks for all the replies and good advice Oh, and the "welcome" Looks like some good threads on here. Looking forward to getting into shooting and following this forum. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 in the big picture you can virtually put any choke in 1/2 or tighter and still not notice any difference between 1/4 and skeet. choke has more to do with cartridge selection than just cramming any old shell in the gun and 1/4 choke and hope. if you shoot well, use whatever you want. i bet there are more unused full chokes in this country than any other choke. i know its the extreme end of the choke spectrum, but cartridge selection is paramount. classic to have the bottom barrel firt, but "any" barrel will do, they are both regulated at 30yards. so any, as with choke selection for "game" shooting, english guns are often overchoked, so open first and choked second. game shooting can be more about shot selection too. if you have a long incomer and offers the most challenging / "adequete" sport, then use the back trigger with some extra lead on target. i`ve shot game and select whatever choke i need, just by moving my finger to the second trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Mind you you can get past all the confusion about chokes and just stick 1/2 & 1/2 in each barrel...no decisions to make then! that's why my main gun is 1/4 1/4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I think you are trying to confuse the poor man. Bottom barrel first. Nope just the plain facts here. Why...please tell us but don't use the muzzle flip excuss :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) Did't AJ (RIP) use FULL/FULL for everything. Hence 'smoker'. Edited June 15, 2011 by B25Modelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Why...please tell us but don't use the muzzle flip excuss :blink: To be fair that is the only reason why, it stems from shooting disciplines like DTL, ABT etc which allow full use of gun on each target and the target would be further away if you miss with the first and need the second shot. On a sporting layout you could have any combination of close in or far out targets in any order, so it does depend which discipline the op is shooting. I know I can tell the difference between shooting top barrel first, so I shoot the same chokes in both barrels, I also know Chard feels the same way about shooting bottom first. However Nicky T has no problem switching the barrel selector between stands to utilise his different chokes. So in essence it does depend on the individual shooter in Sporting but the done thing in disciplines like DTL & ABT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Did't AJ (RIP) use FULL/FULL for everything. Hence 'smoker'. no :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 I always shoot bottom barrel first. I can also feel the difference if I by accident switch to top barrel. Not sure if it's muzzle flip or the constriction of the choke, but I can always tell something was different. I shoot compak sporting and 1/4 bottom 1/2 top. I'm in Tallinn now for the EC and have seen a number of shooters changing chokes to more open chokes, because the targets are very close. I would usually go for 1/2 and 1/2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 If you can't feel the difference in recoil or barrel flip between top and bottom barrel, you must be numb from the neck down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 If you can't feel the difference in recoil or barrel flip between top and bottom barrel, you must be numb from the neck down Or numb from the neck up - its readily provable physics - the torque aplied by the recoil in the top barrel is larger than the bottom ! I will occaisionally switch to top barrel first if the second target kill point is a lot nearer than the first My chokes are nearly the same anyway- 1/4 in bthe bottom 3/8 in top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 If you can't feel the difference in recoil or barrel flip between top and bottom barrel, you must be numb from the neck down If you can feel the difference in recoil or barrel flip between top and bottom barrel, you must be numb from the neck up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 you can kill at 40 yards plus with 1/4 chokes the moral of the story is shoot the correct load and that if your on em your on em!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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