deer with a shotgun

[digger]

can any members help ? i went down to the farm i shoot over today to have a roast with my mate and our families.took the gun as he has had a problem with crows and as i was driving through the lanes the land owner stopped me to say he had hit a roe and broken its leg.the only guy on the farm with a fac was away so my mate and i met at the spinney the buck was in and found it in a bad way.it could walk but it was clear the injury would never heal.he bought some sg`s with him so from ten yards i ended its misery,a shot that left me feeling hollow inside.

did i break the law ? i feel the fact i was carrying out an act of mercy would make a mockery of any law,if there is one,against using a shotgun with heavy cartridges against deer.

left the crows alone,that one shot was more than enough for me today

[dunganick]

if it wasnt damaging crops when you shot it i believe you did, but im not certain about that

 

stuff the law in those cases, if it is putting an animal out of suffering and not being done to put meat on the table, i cant see why it should be illegal.

[Guest john5]

the term "humanely disspatched" for reasons to" end suffering",. is the term in law,. .......... no need for a "guilt trip", as you acted in the interest of the animal on the advice of others ,,,,,,,,,, somebody has to do it

[Lord Geordie]

As per a recent thread reguarding a Cop who used a Shovel to put a Cat out of it's misery.

 

Even the Judge said it needed doing

 

As far as I can see you should sleep BETTER knowing you releived it's suffering

 

As Dunganick pointed out it was out of good intention and not for the meat

 

LG

[beatingisbest]

the law states that if a deer is in 'distress' it is legal to shoot it with a shotgun to end its misery.

 

On our pheasant shoot we had a railway line running through part of it, a couple of times when we were beating it through, we came across injured deer that had been hit by the train, we had walking guns with us so they soon ended their misery. We once found one that had been there for approx 3 weeks its back half inc its legs was rotting away (lying in its own faeces and urine) it also had fox bite marks on its neck. It was a horrible sight to see an animal in that much distress, the shoot captain soon shot it in the head with his 12 s/s (thank goodness).

 

So Digger i think you did the right thing, it not a nice thing to do but if you had have left it i think you would have felt worse.

[edd]

you did the right thing, you would feel bad if you had left it becouse of the law ( i think everyone would have done the same mate) i would of certenly shot it,

[dazza]

You did the right thing digger.

[Hodmedod.one]

Well done Digger. Don't feel bad about putting an animal that is suffering out of it's misery.

 

As already said, using a shotgun for this purpose is perfectly legal.

[Tam]

If my memory serves me well - there is no minimum calibre for humane dispach (air weapons excluded)

 

Tam.

[Hunter]

I had to shoot a Myxy rabbit the other day

Funnily enough it left me in the same feeling as you had. Gutted that you had to kill something when it had no chance of getting away, and you had no chance of missing..

But inside you know you did the right thing..

[markbivvy]

good lad digger.

soak any bruised meat in salt water.

[Guest john5]

good lad digger.

soak any bruised meat in salt water.

you have said what i did not dare ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a true yorkshireman

[rarms]

Not illegal to dispatch it assuming you have legal shooting permission on that land

 

Other wise it would still be armed tresspass, however I am assuming since you were supplied with SG's that you have permission on that spinney

[Frank]

I have been called out on one or 2 RTAs over the past few years for deer.

I dont have a deer permit as yet, but it was for humane reasons, that comes before any law.

You did well Digger.

[digger]

thanks for the thumbs up replies.i had the land owners permission and request,the heavy shells are kept by my mate (the shepherd on the farm) for foxes and any other instances.

when we walked into the spinney i only put two shells in the gun,if id needed all three id give up shooting.ive shot over the same farm for eight years and this was the first deer id seen so it makes it a tad sadder.

cheers chaps

[henry d]

Well done you,for doing what needed to be done

[throdgrain]

Yeah you did the right thing, well done mate.

[Kenzie]

You did the right thing mate,I hope the carcass wasn't wasted though

[steve3562]

you did the nicest thing possable

 

 

no worries m8

 

 

steve

[alison391]

I think you did the right thing regardles of what is and isnt legal, would you have been able to sleep thinking it was still suffering? i know i wouldnt.

alison

[Nildes]

Its legal with a shotgun provided you use AAA shot.

 

Its all here:

https://www.said.net/BDS/PageL2.asp?PageNam...ShotgunstoShoot

[kip270]

Humane dispatch of deer;

 

Shotguns

In circumstances when the humane dispatch of a deer is required and a rifle is

inappropriate or unavailable, then any smooth-bore gun may be used. The

shotgun is more generally available and safer than free bullet weapons and, in

the hands of a competent operator, is very effective for the humane dispatch of

deer. If the animal is down and can be approached at close quarters, a .410

shotgun will cope very adequately. Where possible the muzzle should be held

5 to 20cm from the animal’s forehead aiming down the length of the neck into

the animal’s body. On no account should the muzzle be held directly against

the animal’s head as this will result in severe injury to the operator. When used

correctly the shot enters the skull as a ‘solid’ mass and disperses in the brain

to kill the animal outright. Contrary to popular belief, the use of a shotgun

does not blow the animal’s head apart. There is a relatively small entry wound

but the brain is completely destroyed.If it is not possible to get the shotgun within close proximity of the deer (ie

5-20 cm) then it is recommended that AAA shot or larger be used. For the

smaller deer (roe, muntjac and CWD) using a 12 bore shotgun, this should be

effective at ranges of up to 25m providing the deer can be hit in the head or

neck. For the larger species of deer (red, fallow and sika) it is recommended

that a minimum shot size of SSG be used and the range restricted to no more

than 10m, again the point of aim should be the head.

 

You did the right thing :(

[rocksaplenty]

Couldn't agree more. I always bring my heavily choked shotgun + large shot when out stalking with a mate with a .243. From experience I have learnt that there is nothing more dangerous than the urge to shoot another .243 round into a wounded deer that is leaving your boundary especially if the shot is one that you wouldn't take under normal conditions. This is where a shotgun can be a lot safer. (Also removes the reason for handguns that some stalkers seem to want).

 

Obviously the ideal result is a clean kill first time!

[rarms]

>Also removes the reason for handguns that some stalkers seem to want

 

 

Assuming you have someone with the stalker willing to drag a twelve bore around with you rather than just one stalker with a rifle and a pistol.