silpig5 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 all jokes aside , it was the legal thing to do as i normally have beretta in back for the odd shot at landfill sites . im in my rights and following guidelines to the letter apparently . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tycoon01 Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Dip away my good man!Its the probe up the exhaust that you've got to watch. the portable sniffer shoved up ya pipe tells them what they need to know . no need to hunt for a second tank I wouldn't stand for that over some fuel issue :lol: Edited July 9, 2011 by tycoon01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 sounds uncomfortable! It is quite uncomfortable but it takes your mind of having your fuel tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Its been big news down here in Devon, a farmer who cuts the grass at the local football pitch has just been done he cuts the grass for free but still got fined £250 (he had red diesel in his tank)in his tractor they say that cutting the grass for the football team is not agriculture use it has caused a bit of a stir Edited July 10, 2011 by jasper3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrie Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Genius When I delivered lorry loads of cigarettes, I had to carry the same sign that we had to show if anyone tried to stop us......But without the "Guns onboard" bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Wish they would do the outfit down here which uses those big JCB Fastraks to lead trailers of poultry from farms to processing factory. They are neither fast nor slow so are a pain on the road but my main gripe is why should they get away with using Red when Joe Bloggs haulier has to tow the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Wish they would do the outfit down here which uses those big JCB Fastraks to lead trailers of poultry from farms to processing factory. They are neither fast nor slow so are a pain on the road but my main gripe is why should they get away with using Red when Joe Bloggs haulier has to tow the line? Would that not count as agricultural use anyway as they are transporting livestock? I would agree if they were using fastracks to transport other goods, but if it's farming based I would tend to take the side of the farmer. Make the most of what you're allowed but don't break the law is the way I view life, especially when tax is concerned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 If the road has a physical barrier to prevent the public having access, yes it is legal! Well it hasn't, this thing is flying up and down the road all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 Can someone advise me. I thought all modern cars had anti syphon something or other in the filler caps now. I'm told mine has. How does that work when they want to dip your tank ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Its just a thin pipe they use only as thick as a pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 When they dip you they use pressure/suction to drain fuel out as they only need a small sample, fuel thieves would struggle with such a small diameter hose as it would take them ages to drain a significant amount out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukipilot Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 A few years ago the local vintage vehicle club were doing their annual charity vintage tractor run, The customs and excise people stopped them saying that they could not use red diesel as this was not agricultural. I am not sure what the outcome of this was but they were obviously picking an easy target, especially when half the country is running their vans and caers on red and never seem to get stopped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Those JCB fastracs should be limited to 20 mph - they are dangerous - had a few tip their trailers over around here - one farmer couldn't get it upright quick enough as all the tyres were bald - then they have 18 yr old idiots driving them - well they only look 18. - Just a tax fiddle in my opinion - do em I say Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowdy Posted July 11, 2011 Report Share Posted July 11, 2011 Those JCB fastracs should be limited to 20 mph - they are dangerous - had a few tip their trailers over around here - one farmer couldn't get it upright quick enough as all the tyres were bald - then they have 18 yr old idiots driving them - well they only look 18. - Just a tax fiddle in my opinion - do em I say Dave IF they were limited to 20mph they would have call them JCB slow tracks and who would want to buy one then? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris64 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 C&E and VOSA have to much power,worse still since they now have to be self finacing,no i havent been pulled by them i have worked with men who have,you carnt win becuse they call them selves expert witnesses which you carnt,the law falls in fayver of them,farmers & drivers have enuf to worry about as it is. rant over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I believe a Agri vehicle can use red diesel on the road for a limited amount of miles, i think its either 5 or 11 from each field/farm they own , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I believe a Agri vehicle can use red diesel on the road for a limited amount of miles, i think its either 5 or 11 from each field/farm they own , 1.5kms and in answer to other posts. JCB fastracs being used on the road are not allowed to use red deisel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 C&E and VOSA have to much power,worse still since they now have to be self finacing,no i havent been pulled by them i have worked with men who have,you carnt win becuse they call them selves expert witnesses which you carnt,the law falls in fayver of them,farmers & drivers have enuf to worry about as it is. rant over agree, it must be a sad life going round shaking down good people for extra tax money for the state. real job satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I am reliably informed that the MPG from cherryade is actually better than shop bought diesel due to it not having a proportion of Biofuel added. And before you ask...or suggest, my vehicle is petrol driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Wish they would do the outfit down here which uses those big JCB Fastraks to lead trailers of poultry from farms to processing factory. They are neither fast nor slow so are a pain on the road but my main gripe is why should they get away with using Red when Joe Bloggs haulier has to tow the line? how do you know they are only on red? Round us a fair few contractors have to run on normal diesel but its still cheaper to run fastracs than lorries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Out of interest what would happen if you half filled a tank with red and the rest with normal what would the result be? If you ran it on red and ran until nearly empty then refilled with normal what would be the result? How many refills would it take for a 'clean' result to be given? If you ran on chip fat what would the result be? All in the interests of science of course. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 Out of interest what would happen if you half filled a tank with red and the rest with normal what would the result be? If you ran it on red and ran until nearly empty then refilled with normal what would be the result? How many refills would it take for a 'clean' result to be given? If you ran on chip fat what would the result be? All in the interests of science of course. :yp: If they suspect you've been using red derv they can sieze and examine the vehicle, things like fuel lines, filters etc etc will be stained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 If they suspect you've been using red derv they can sieze and examine the vehicle, things like fuel lines, filters etc etc will be stained. What if you had a S/H car and the previous owner had ran it on red? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) chip fat you can use as there is a legal amount that you can run without paying duty. Red is a bad idea as said as you will keep getting traces for ages unless you drain and flush the entire system. Then you would need to explain a legitimate reason for it or get nicked. S/H car you'd have to blag it and hope they took the fact you'd bought it recently from a ***** as explanation Edited July 12, 2011 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXPhil Posted July 12, 2011 Report Share Posted July 12, 2011 I saw many years ago a fix for Land rovers The external fuel cap went to a small reserve of normal diesel You then opened back door for the actual filler cap Naughty and I am sure would mean an even bigger fine if caught but have to admire the idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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