bignoel Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 for god sake some one tell al4x the moderators job is gone . :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 about 25 years or there abouts. So only a beginner there are two issues here firstly the long range shooting one and the second the need to wave ones willy about a half mile shot that went wrong. The first is one thing the second is just not needed. well you that 25 years I would have hoped to learn something of the what the modern firearm is capable of,how long have you had a centre fire there is no issues,who are we to say what is long range ?? the range is up to the individual skill and confidence the shoy didnt go wrong the guy missed with the first shot and hit with the 2nd,so no different to anyone missong at 60yards and then taking a 2nd shot to hit the guy isnt willy waving hes showing a real life situation what can be done and what can happen,again its not a fairy tale from your shooting mags if you can post on here hand on heart and say you "never" miss or never "wound" at your given distance then I will take my hat off to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 numerous distance threads is indeed willy waving. We all have shots that go wrong at that distance you just leave the animal to die at normal ranges you do something to speed it up. If you think its normal and acceptable it might be time to step back and look at what you are doing a bit. Still I guess we should be glad you haven't learned to use a video to record your cock ups as well it seems this poster has just stretched his ability till he has found the limit and that limit is an injured animal nice eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) numerous distance threads is indeed willy waving. We all have shots that go wrong at that distance you just leave the animal to die at normal ranges you do something to speed it up. If you think its normal and acceptable it might be time to step back and look at what you are doing a bit. Still I guess we should be glad you haven't learned to use a video to record your cock ups as well it seems this poster has just stretched his ability till he has found the limit and that limit is an injured animal nice eh. are you blind,the rabbit was dead within a few seconds,the shot was superb showing the skill of the OP to be able to adjust and make the hit 2nd shot,just showing anything wounded could have been followed up, I can safey say hand on heart I have "never" cocked up a long shot,yes ive missed and missed clean just like anyone else at any distance. Iam still waiting for your answer regarding never wounding,missing or lossing an animal with the greatest of respect Alex if you dont like long range shooting dont read the posts as its clear to see you get upset Edited August 15, 2011 by Ackley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I have to say Ackley hand on heart wounding is rare loosing animals extremely rare. Simple reason being if any accidents happen the dog is straight on them something you can't do at half a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Outstanding shooting once again fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 well you that 25 years I would have hoped to learn something of the what the modern firearm is capable of,how long have you had a centre fire there is no issues,who are we to say what is long range ?? the range is up to the individual skill and confidence the shoy didnt go wrong the guy missed with the first shot and hit with the 2nd,so no different to anyone missong at 60yards and then taking a 2nd shot to hit the guy isnt willy waving hes showing a real life situation what can be done and what can happen,again its not a fairy tale from your shooting mags if you can post on here hand on heart and say you "never" miss or never "wound" at your given distance then I will take my hat off to you I read this thread with interest ,now let me start by saying I dont shoot centre fire or rim fire for that matter. But I always assumed that centre fire rounds are expensive so therefore they cannot be a cost effective choice for pest control you dont even have a saleable end product even if you can be bothered to walk half a mile to pick it up ,now the OP says the bullet did not expand how can he state that from 1/2 mile away ? . I must admit even though I know rabbits are vermin that sibores just seem to go to waste (Fox bait to me is waste use blackies or road kil!). Yes things get wounded in the real world I have shot enough years to know that ,but as has already been mentioned the OP just seems to use the rabbits as a breathing target,I would be much more inpressed to see a group on a target at that distance. I therfore will join the side that say he is willie waving as just shooting them at that distance because he can is not sport and its not pest control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 don't think any shots over that distance should be made ,end of the day they are vermin but wounding them at that distance wouldn't be right for the prey (not that he did wound ),sure you could get a lot closer not having a go just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Obviously there is a massive difference in the level of skill involved, but when a mole was shot with a centrefire for fun the poster was accused of bringing the sport into disrepute by the same people who are lapping this up, surely this is exactly the same thing just from a lot further away - no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 outstanding shooting,yes the rabbit did run,but they also run when hit with a 22 rimmy at 60 yards then fall over and die people who atually shoot will understand this,unlike the google armchair shooters that will rip this one to pieces well done hear hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I will add that when I am shooting with the 6.5x47 I rarely wound! I wounded more with the .22LR shooting at 40-80 yards last night. Out of 150 rabbits shot last night (and taken to the game dealer this morning) there were probably 7 rabbits that got away through dry stone walls due to movement when I took the shot etc. On the flip side I shot 10 rabbits with the 6.5x47 yesterday and wounded none! Some people as I can see from this thread are not impressed with rabbits being shot at longer ranges. This is fair enough but in terms of the ethics behind it I sleep well knowing I am not injuring rabbits. I'm simply taking out a few vermin during the day as I practice my sport with an accurate rifle. Thanks for the positive comments from some of you guys. Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Impressive shooting again. There will always be someone who will not agree. Thats life, But i did manage to read the title,and read your post before watching, maybe some of the others should too, unless of course they just like starting arguments, Oh! but of course they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks for the back up Doug. I did send a few sighting shots up an hour before to confirm elevation/windage requirements etc. When Maxwell and I watched the bullets land within a 3-4 inches of each other we knew I could make the shot. Cheers, Si Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks for the back up Doug. I did send a few sighting shots up an hour before to confirm elevation/windage requirements etc. When Maxwell and I watched the bullets land within a 3-4 inches of each other we knew I could make the shot. Cheers, Si 4" Thats the distance between a vitals hit and a shot in the ***** ... with a round which was not delivering its energy as you have already stated. Play with paper and leave the live shooting to people who give a toss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackley Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 4" Thats the distance between a vitals hit and a shot in the ***** ... with a round which was not delivering its energy as you have already stated. Play with paper and leave the live shooting to people who give a toss. the round has by far enough energy at that distance,didnt you read the first post,the bullet failed,which can happen at any distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOXHUNTER1 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Very impressive shooting!! Some people just dont appreciate all thats involved with long range shooting i.e load development and practice not to mention having all the best equipment. Custom built rifles , best scopes , home load ammo , rangefinder , wind meter , PDA and having the abilty to make all the calculations required in the field before even attempting the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 4" Thats the distance between a vitals hit and a shot in the ***** ... with a round which was not delivering its energy as you have already stated. Play with paper and leave the live shooting to people who give a toss. At that range the energy is 1003 ft/lbs from that bullet. I aimed at the shoulder area as I do - I think you will find that 4" would suffice. Either a clean miss or vital strike. The bullet had greatly reduced expansion on this particular shot which was a shame but still did it's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si-Bore Posted August 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Very impressive shooting!! Some people just dont appreciate all thats involved with long range shooting i.e load development and practice not to mention having all the best equipment. Custom built rifles , best scopes , home load ammo , rangefinder , wind meter , PDA and having the abilty to make all the calculations required in the field before even attempting the shot. Thanks mate. Yeah a lot of time in the field is required. They are not 'pot shots' as some seem to think. I've shot over 1000 rabbits last year in this spot alone with my .204 from 150-450yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12borejimbo Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Damn good shot I must say, wish I could shoot at that distance. However I cant so I dont do it. I can see what some are getting at, you have proved that you can take some cracking shots previously, and you felt confident about taking the shot, so you did, and you killed. Well done, keep at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Great shooting Si-bore , having done long distance shooting when younger i appreciate the skill needed.And for once I find myself in agreement with Ackley/Pete but Pete pls don,t do another BBs on here as we don,t want you banned off all forums as all that expert knowledge and experience would be wasted. Si carry on mate forget the whingers. atb brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quady485 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 result one less rabbit mate, well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) At that range and in those wind conditions I would not have even considered taking the shot.We are all different,however,and I have met some outstanding,almost natural,rifle shots (The Duncan,for example)and it looks like you,si-bore, are also blessed.I,for one,am not going to question your capabilities-I,m far too flaming jealous. Edited August 15, 2011 by bruno22rf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Personally I am impressed by good shooting, and whilst this is very accurate long range shooting - I wouldnt do it if I could, because its not 'good' shooting. Supposed the target had been wounded ? Second shot? Drive half a mile. I would stick to targets and always kill game/ vermin at close range - so close I could despatch quickly in the event of a wounding. This isnt willy waving, I accept that but for me its morally indefensible - sorry Ackley - it just isnt necessary because there are targets and there are live quarry. I hope he has vermin on his ticket and is aware of the Animal Welfare Act 2006. I find this savage and uncivilsed. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I suppose everyone on here only shoots pigeons at close range and track down birds they have peppered that have flown off to ensure they dispatch them humanely. We don't ever watch digweed on fieldsports tv bladdering sky high pigeons and have a go ourselves... or is it safer to have a fake high moral standing behind a keyboard instead of in the field. I can detect some hypocrites in our ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 I suppose everyone on here only shoots pigeons at close range and track down birds they have peppered that have flown off to ensure they dispatch them humanely. We don't ever watch digweed on fieldsports tv bladdering sky high pigeons and have a go ourselves... or is it safer to have a fake high moral standing behind a keyboard instead of in the field. I can detect some hypocrites in our ranks. Doing all you can to ensure a clean kill isnt hypocritical, you may fail but you honestly try. My posts surprisingly are reflections of what I actually try to do. Yes its easy to be an a**e behind a keyboard as you have confirmed but its a lot better (morally) than being an A**e behind a scope sight with a live animal in front half a mile away. Get real, we are not a bunch of thrill seeking killers, we are responsible shooters. If you are a responsible shooter, you dont kill animals at this distance, even if you can and that I dont doubt with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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