One Bang Dan Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 i was out shooting today just as i was setting my decoys up a couple of dogs came out of nowhere and started barking then one went to bite me so i shot into the air and the owner called them back.if they did attack could i have shot them whats the law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 if they hadnt run off after a shot into the air and really attacked you i am sure you would of been let off shooting them its self defence, fearing for your life human instinct to save your own life on another note have you reported this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Bang Dan Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 no i havent reported it.and who would you report it to the police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 The dogs should have been on a lead. You fired a shot. I would be reporting it to the Police fairly quickly, before the dogs' owner makes any report - possibly putting a different slant on the incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Bang Dan Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 dident think of that thanks for the advice i will report it tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 get it reported asap helps if you know who the owner is write everything down NOW that you remember, time, location, direction of walker etc etc if the walker reports something they could twist the tale and open a whole can of worms for you just report it to cover your back shows that you are a responsible person and may even help you in the future if you ever have any run ins with walkers or police when out shooting..touch wood you dont! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 This happened near me a while back. Guy out flighting pigeons got set on by two rottys and he shot one but didn't kill it. got some grief from the cops but no long term problems and at least he's stil in one piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 29, 2011 Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 Dan, how can you tell the dog went to bite you? What sort of dogs were they and what did the owner say? Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Bang Dan Posted August 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2011 i can tell it went to bite me as its mouth was wide open and its teeth was about 2 inch away from my leg and the owner dident say anything as she was too far away and i think i may have scared her as i shoot in the air.they where german shepards big ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Ive got footpaths zig zagging a few permissions, if I ever see dog walkers/just walkers, Ill always put a shot up in the air, long before they get near me, tend to think that as Im dressed in camo, behind a camo net, a pre warning Im there, saves giving them a nasty shock if/when they get nearer, it also makes them put leads on dogs, well before dogs get anywhere near me, it also makes them stick to the footpaths, something they dont normally do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 The title is a bit misleading then really. All that happened is some dogs barked at you which is probably not surprising if you were cammo'd up and they stumbled accross you. I think if you shot them you would need to have a bloody good bite to justify it. Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 i can tell it went to bite me as its mouth was wide open and its teeth was about 2 inch away from my leg and the owner dident say anything as she was too far away and i think i may have scared her as i shoot in the air.they where german shepards big ones That was a warning, you could have induced it to bite non the less. Dogs have way quicker reactions than us when they intend to bite and are that close you will get it one thing for sure it did not miss. Ok out of control but look carefully at your actions leading up to this warning for future refference, if you jumped out of a hedge previously unseen infront of a dog unexpectedly say or approached the owner in a threatening manner, wafting a stick or gun infront of it even if you were not threatening intentionally . Personally i can see absolutly no reason why you should get into bother if you shot a dog that was out of control and actually biting you or anyone else for that matter IF you had other good reason to be in posesion of a gun at that time and hadn't gone out looking for trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 The title is a bit misleading then really. All that happened is some dogs barked at you which is probably not surprising if you were cammo'd up and they stumbled accross you. I think if you shot them you would need to have a bloody good bite to justify it. Harry My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 take your face mask off straight away in that situation, dogs don't know what you are otherwise. Mine gets iffy with kids with hoodies on. Personally I think you should leave it be and not report it due to the shot being fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 So you guys think you should wait until the 2 big german shepherds were tearing chunks out of him hefore he would be ok to shoot ? :look: Dogs were out of control, off lead, far away from owner, you were taking part in a legal activity. If in your situation I wouldn't hesitate to shoot! Regardless of anyone's views, I'd rather not get torn up and lose my SGC than get killed! I highly doubt you would get in any permanent trouble anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 So you guys think you should wait until the 2 big german shepherds were tearing chunks out of him hefore he would be ok to shoot ? :look: Dogs were out of control, off lead, far away from owner, you were taking part in a legal activity. If in your situation I wouldn't hesitate to shoot! Regardless of anyone's views, I'd rather not get torn up and lose my SGC than get killed! I highly doubt you would get in any permanent trouble "The owner called the dogs back" dont sound out of control to me If some one jumped out of a bush infront of me holding a gun, Id bite you too :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Most dogs that aren't actually trained to detain or attack people will just bite whatever is easy to get hold of. If you're in that position again make the gun the nearest thing and the chances are the dog will bite the gun. Once it's done that you can shoot it, and you don't have any holes in you to suffer with later. If a dog ran over to me barking there's no way I'd shoot it unless I really had no choice. I'd be more sad about shooting a dog than I would be about shooting it's owner for not looking after it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Most dogs that aren't actually trained to detain or attack people will just bite whatever is easy to get hold of. If you're in that position again make the gun the nearest thing and the chances are the dog will bite the gun. Once it's done that you can shoot it, and you don't have any holes in you to suffer with later. If a dog ran over to me barking there's no way I'd shoot it unless I really had no choice. I'd be more sad about shooting a dog than I would be about shooting it's owner for not looking after it! Yeah id go along with that buddy i would rather shoot the owner than the dog lol, but it is scary having dogs come running up to you in the middle of nowhere especially big dogs ,but if i had to shoot it i would trouble is if they both started to attack you i wonder if you would get a chance to shoot them there bloody big dogs and would soon take you to the ground............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 simple thing is they were highly unlikely to attack, shoot them loose your ticket its simple and the way it should be. It would be very hard to say these dogs barked at me so I shot them as a line of defence. It will be due to cammo and a mask etc if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 simple thing is they were highly unlikely to attack, shoot them loose your ticket its simple and the way it should be. It would be very hard to say these dogs barked at me so I shot them as a line of defence. It will be due to cammo and a mask etc if anything. I guess you would have to have some big bite marks to show that they were attaking you i suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Whatever the rights and wrongs of what happened, I could see this going horribly wrong. Worst case scenario, the poster gets arrested and loses SGC. Please don't say it couldn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 Whatever the rights and wrongs of what happened, I could see this going horribly wrong. Worst case scenario, the poster gets arrested and loses SGC. Please don't say it couldn't happen. oh no in this case it would happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 So you guys think you should wait until the 2 big german shepherds were tearing chunks out of him hefore he would be ok to shoot ? :look: Dogs were out of control, off lead, far away from owner, you were taking part in a legal activity. If in your situation I wouldn't hesitate to shoot! Regardless of anyone's views, I'd rather not get torn up and lose my SGC than get killed! I highly doubt you would get in any permanent trouble anyway! Really? A dog is a pet so therefore someones property and at the very least you're gonna have a visit from the rozzers and you'll really have to convince them it was justified.Worst case scenario-they'll take your guns as they might consider you too reckless to own them. The original poster did the right thing by firing a warning shot in the air because many animals are frightened of gunshot and will naturally run,but needs to report this to the Police straight away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 (edited) This subject always get excitable, if you shoot a dog just have a very good reason and argument ready for when plod comes calling, because trust me, YOU will be in the wrong until you can show otherwise! PS And shooting dogs for self defence is NOT a condition you will find on many FAC's, but you will keep it IF you can show just cause! Edited August 30, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted August 30, 2011 Report Share Posted August 30, 2011 This subject always get excitable, if you shoot a dog just have a very good reason and argument ready for when plod comes calling, because trust me, YOU will be in the wrong until you can show otherwise! PS And shooting dogs for self defence is NOT a condition you will find on many FAC's, but you will keep it IF you can show just cause! Thought we were talking about a shotgun ? If left to the point that the 2 big german shepherds are latched onto you then surely It'd be too late to shoot them in self defence ? As you'd pretty much be dragged down by them :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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