joshnathan Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hello, Does anyone have an experience with low recoil ammunition for a 12g? I don't really want to spend the money on a 20g but my girlfriend currently finds the recoil unmanageable. Any help would be great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Hunting or clays ? For clays the Express HV 24g 7.5 are pretty gentle. For pigeons you could try the Hushpower Subsonic 32g No6 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 At claying I use 21g 7.5 and there light as owt. Just because there cheaper. If your on them they still dust it. At least with a small load you no if you have done wrong as it's normally a complete miss. If hunting give her a 56gram fox load. It will be cheaper when she doesn't want to do it anymore haha but if u really want her there and spend all your hard earned cash 28g/24g 6 will be ok I suppose for pigeon. or invest in a nice recoil pad. Sorry if I'm no help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Eley first or Hull Compx 21g in 12 gauge super soft (make sure the gun fits her) ideal for clays. Hushpower subs are also low recoil but expensive, there are some game loads for older guns that are suitable for game and low recoil. IF she isnt an experienced shot then soem proper lessons on gun f mount and technique will help a lot. A firend of mine is 5'4" petit size 10 and shoots a 12 bore 28" 686 berretta and 21g shells fine (20 bores can kick more!) but the gun fits has good recoil pad (kick Eez) and adjustable comb. Here is a picture of her stock (shortened to fit) Edited October 28, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I would echo HDAV on his advice, the kickeez pads are great (you may need to adjust stock length for good fit). I shoot 24 gram loads almost exclusively and find no hindrance to them. I assume she is wearing good hearing protection and glasses. The combination of a good recoil pad and light loads in conjunction with a good gun fit should put her at ease shooting a twelve. I commend you for seeking a way to make it a good experience for her, it's rewarding to have a significant other with like hobbies. (they understand the need for new guns etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Kick Eez pads are Ok are far as rubber pads go but they wouldn't hold a candle to an Isis (green) pad made by David Izzard (UK) if you look on David's web site there is a wee video to show the difference in rubber recoil pads and Isis pads, I have them on 5/6 of my shotguns the Maxus pad is the only one I've not changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've seen those not shot with one, might consider one for my gun which currently has the standard plastic plate (browning) wish there was a none green version.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 If its for clays go for the 21g hull comp x, its a really low recoil cartridge. My 10 year old lad uses these through a skeet gun and the recoil is barely more than with his .410 shooting eley 3" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Another +1 for the Hull 21s, very soft but no real lack of performance in a non-competitive arena. Once again recently I saw a woman being given a 20 bore gun but then being given really punchy 28gram cartridges to use with it, totally defeats the object and I doubt she will ever shoot again. Don't people realise that will kick her more than a 12? Edited October 28, 2011 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Don't people realise that will kick her more than a 12? Nope, they don't..... Light gun = more recoil for same load If your recoil sensitive buy a 10lbs gun! The weight of the gun is the issue for many novices but a light 12 with 21gms is the way to go! Muscles soon build and muscle memory start to develop. I am still amazed that most grounds (the ones that do lots of corporate days lessons hens and stags etc) still have a poor selection of loan guns normally no Left handers one 20 perhaps 2 28/.410 and a couple old dog 12's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Another vote here for Hull comp X 21G, they have very low recoil and can still break clays like 28G cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Another vote here for Hull comp X 21G, they have very low recoil and can still break clays like 28G cartridges. I find in general people who cant handle the kick of 12G 24 gram cant handle the weight of the gun either. In my experiance for beginers who are small or slightly built 20 bore semi auto is the best all rounder. Having said that I accidently picked up 2 boxes of 21gram shells the other week and shot round with them, I noticed no differance in how many clays I broke. I didn't notice less recoil either though but then I just tend to shoot and not hink about it too much. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Get an auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 Having said that I accidently picked up 2 boxes of 21gram shells the other week and shot round with them, I noticed no differance in how many clays I broke. I didn't notice less recoil either though but then I just tend to shoot and not hink about it too much. Dave I agree - I only started shooting 21g Comp X because they didn't have 28g in stock when I went for a round of clays. Now I don't shoot anything else, and they even cycle in my Beretta semi! I ran out last Sunday and a mate lent me a few Dan Arms. OMG, talk about recoil (and noise) - I looked at the clay ground expecting to see a huge crater in the earth and fragments of a clay in the bottom. Nope, not a mark on anything... including the clay . Hull Comp X 21g even my 14yo skinny daughter can manage with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 I shoot eley 24g 7 on clays. I can shoot 200 in a day and not get kicked about by them at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 hull do a 28g subsonic cart, really soft on the shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 28, 2011 Report Share Posted October 28, 2011 There are LOW recoil carts, which can cause problems with some semis, there are also LIGHT cartridges. I have some 21g 9's, bought for a young lady for the Skeet, they are easy, even in a light 12g gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 21g hull comp x as has been said or failing that subsonics are soft to shoot. If your local to me let me know I've probably got a box you can try out. WW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldeneye243 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I've seen those not shot with one, might consider one for my gun which currently has the standard plastic plate (browning) wish there was a none green version.... They can easily be coloured in with a permanent marker. Mine is black and looks fine... I cant get on with the plastic Miroku or Browning butt plates at all they just don't fit my shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Kick Eez pads are Ok are far as rubber pads go but they wouldn't hold a candle to an Isis (green) pad made by David Izzard (UK) if you look on David's web site there is a wee video to show the difference in rubber recoil pads and Isis pads, I have them on 5/6 of my shotguns the Maxus pad is the only one I've not changed. Actually kick-eez pads are not rubber pads but a space age polymer that is used on the space shuttle for absorbing shock, also used in high end athletic shoe insoles. I am interested in your green pad however as anything that cuts felt recoil is tops in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P~MX Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Actually kick-eez pads are not rubber pads but a space age polymer that is used on the space shuttle for absorbing shock, also used in high end athletic shoe insoles. I am interested in your green pad however as anything that cuts felt recoil is tops in my book. Believe me the green pads are the only pad to have on your gun,If you really suffer from recoil problems then fit an Isis system (look at the web site) and you can shoot any cartridge combination without worry of recoil, David with supply you with an Isis system and have Malcolm Jenkins fit it for you and that's the end of you recoil worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Fantastic service and great product. Two thumbs up for the Isis from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Believe me the green pads are the only pad to have on your gun,If you really suffer from recoil problems then fit an Isis system (look at the web site) and you can shoot any cartridge combination without worry of recoil, David with supply you with an Isis system and have Malcolm Jenkins fit it for you and that's the end of you recoil worries. Thank you, I will check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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