rabbit_stu Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I didnt realise it was going to be that expencive! £85 for an hours introduction, with clays, carts and gun. is this the norm? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastshooter Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 60 were i go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitclays Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) Edited December 7, 2011 by hitclays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crob12 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 £60 with me too and thats with own gun and 100 clays/cartridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 £45 - £85 an hour Jeeeezus Christ Fenton !!! We're all in the wrong job :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 £60 for 100, £35 for 50 where I go, not bad really £6 clays £10 carts, him for an hour, hire for the gun, he doesn't actually charge slit when you break it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Field and Clay Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) For an hours lesson you certaily won't do 100 clays and carts. 50 to 75 most likely. An introduction or have a go lesson, 30 clay is plenty You will get better value for money and flexability from a local freelance Instructor try a few CPSA Instructors in your area. Edited December 7, 2011 by Field and Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Kibworth SG charges £40 all in for a 1hr introductory lesson and £55 for a normal hour lesson inc clays but not gun or carts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinggun Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 My local club does a starter or taster sessions for £25 which includes gun hire, cartridges, safety equipment and 25 clays then you can progress to 50 clay session for £45 if wanted or continue with 25's, i had one and then started shooting there on my own as i am only interested in doing it for a bit of fun and quality time with my dad so not getting into it to seriously, we just walk about random stands in no order enjoying the laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you shoot more than 25-50 clays in your first 1 hour lesson you need to find another coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I had my first lesson at Doveridge today and paid £45 per hour for the mans time, clays and cartridges extra, so would work out at £65 per hour if you shoot 50 clays. I had a great time though and learned a lot. £45 - £85 an hour Jeeeezus Christ Fenton !!! We're all in the wrong job :o LOL I'm not................. I'm RETIRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I pay £60 for 100 cartridges... and however long it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I didnt realise it was going to be that expencive! £85 for an hours introduction, with clays, carts and gun. is this the norm? thanks Steep but not the most some are £100+ but then some are aimed at the well heeled/stupid it's hard to put a price on instruction I have seen £12 for 25 clays have a go to £55 and the £55 was better value for money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garjo Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 £50-£60 - £85 seems steep to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Bedfordshire do a thing called Active8, a program to get people into or back into sport, brilliant and does loads of different things, from sailing, golf, athletics through to shooting, I went to Sporting Targets with them 8X 2 hr lessons with a group, brilliant, I dont know if other counties do it, but worth checking, think it cost £75 for the 8 Saturday lunch time lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 £60.00 an hour with about 25/30 clays, and cartridges, if you want proper instruction and coaching. 50-60 clays in 1 hour does not leave much time for coaching/instruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 £60.00 an hour with about 25/30 clays, and cartridges, if you want proper instruction and coaching. 50-60 clays in 1 hour does not leave much time for coaching/instruction.. True, I did 50 clays in 2hrs with my coach. 50 Clays and shells bought from the club totalled £20 and I paid £90 for 2hrs coaching. Averages out at £55 per hour all in which I thought was OK. wish I had been paid £45 an hour when I was a copper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 True, I did 50 clays in 2hrs with my coach. 50 Clays and shells bought from the club totalled £20 and I paid £90 for 2hrs coaching. Averages out at £55 per hour all in which I thought was OK. wish I had been paid £45 an hour when I was a copper though. Bet the instructor wishes he had set hours, sick pay and a decent pension! Plumbers and sparkies can charge more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairman Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 £25.00 at my club for 50 clays, cartridges and as long as it takes for the lesson to many clubs putting new shooters off by charging way to much Chairman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 £25.00 at my club for 50 clays, cartridges and as long as it takes for the lesson to many clubs putting new shooters off by charging way to much Chairman IS that a general lesson or an intro lesson? 50 is a lot to shoot first second time out IMO is that sporting or trap/skeet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julesy Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 We charge £35 for the first full lesson - about an hour of this time is spent away from the layout talking about safety, the nuts and bolts behind the sport, gun fit etc. Then the second hour (approx - but it is not set by time, it will take as long as it takes) is spent on the layout with one to one coaching from a qualified instructor. Included in the price is 50 targets, clays, cartridges, loan of gun, vest, ear protection, eye protection and of course tea/coffee. The second (and any subsequent) lesson is only £30 as it doesn't involve the in depth off-layout session. It is false economy for any ground to over charge new shooters - if it is too expensive people will not take up the sport and then we have no future. I despair when reading topics such as this!! Julia, Nottingham & District Gun Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazzmeister Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) We charge £35 for the first full lesson - about an hour of this time is spent away from the layout talking about safety, the nuts and bolts behind the sport, gun fit etc. Then the second hour (approx - but it is not set by time, it will take as long as it takes) is spent on the layout with one to one coaching from a qualified instructor. Included in the price is 50 targets, clays, cartridges, loan of gun, vest, ear protection, eye protection and of course tea/coffee. The second (and any subsequent) lesson is only £30 as it doesn't involve the in depth off-layout session. It is false economy for any ground to over charge new shooters - if it is too expensive people will not take up the sport and then we have no future. I despair when reading topics such as this!! Julia, Nottingham & District Gun Club I'm completely with Julia - we need new blood in the sport and some of the 'Schools' that I've seen are just extracting the Michael with charges guaranteed to make people only try once. At least Richard Turpin had the decency to wear a mask For someone inexperienced but interested the best advice I could give would be to visit your local club and do a lot of looking and listening. Clay shooters are a good and friendly bunch and you'll quickly hear who's worth going to see for lessons - all the experience of established shooters is there just for the asking - after all we all love to talk about our sport don't we? Edited December 12, 2011 by Chazzmeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 We charge £35 for the first full lesson - about an hour of this time is spent away from the layout talking about safety, the nuts and bolts behind the sport, gun fit etc. Then the second hour (approx - but it is not set by time, it will take as long as it takes) is spent on the layout with one to one coaching from a qualified instructor. Included in the price is 50 targets, clays, cartridges, loan of gun, vest, ear protection, eye protection and of course tea/coffee. The second (and any subsequent) lesson is only £30 as it doesn't involve the in depth off-layout session. It is false economy for any ground to over charge new shooters - if it is too expensive people will not take up the sport and then we have no future. I despair when reading topics such as this!! Julia, Nottingham & District Gun Club While I agree with the sentiments about getting new shooters involved and interested in our sport and controling the costs to make them manageable, there is a harsh reality about the cost of clay shooting that needs to be borne in mind. Once you have taken lessons, applied for a cert,bought a cabinet, bought a gun, skeet vest, eyes,ears etc the cconsumable costs(clays/cartridges) every time you shoot will be a minimum of about £30.(assuming a fairly reasonably priced local club showing 70 birds on a sporting layout every other sunday). So an average beginning clay shooter is probably going to need to spend a minimum of £1000 in equipment and assuming they make 20 of the 26 shoots held , £600 in clays and cartridges in their first year in the sport. Theres no point hiding these costs from people. The costs for lessons for beginners will obviously depend on if the instructor is looking to make a profit and also if the shoot is looking to make a profit. If the instructor has a day job and so does not need an income (apart from maybe covering his expenses)and the ground is not a commercial entity it may be well in the interests of the club trying to minimise the costs to encourage new members , but for a shooting instructor who is a paid employee of a commercial ground which is trying to make a profit this is simply not plausible. The reality is that even small shoots have costs and wages for employees of some sort and use consumables that cost real money and have to be slightly commercial, even if the owners are not actively trying to make a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSki Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bet the instructor wishes he had set hours, sick pay and a decent pension! Plumbers and sparkies can charge more! Firstly, I must make it clear that I am NOT complaining about the cost of my lessons. I asked what the hourly rate was BEFORE I started and was happy to proceed. The bit about instructors wishing they had set hours, believe me, so did I, my hours were anything but set, you never knew what time you were going to finish and very often got called in when you least expected or wanted. The bit about sick pay, fair enough, we did get 6 months full pay, 6 months half pay then nothing. The bit about the decent pension. Well, my pension cost me 11% of my wage and I was on a lot less than £45 per hour, so if an instructor can't set aside enough for a better pension than a coppers on £45 per hour, there is something wrong. The thing is, I wish instructors well, most of them have spent money on getting their qualifications and setting themselves up to be instructors. As in every walk of life, these initial costs have to be covered. In the great scheme of things though, £45 is a very large hourly rate. I have a pilots licence and flying instructors are lucky to get £20-£30 per hour for their trouble and they only get that for the hours they fly with a pupil, so very similar to a shooting coach who only gets paid when s/he is teaching a pupil. There seems to be quite a large disparity between those two instructors. Then again though, that argument can be levelled at many different activities, if one chooses a sport to teach that is less well paid than another, whose fault is that. I think I don't mind paying £45 an hour to learn to shoot because in the long run, I know that if I didn't, I would spend far more in lost clays/shells due to my untrained condition, therefore satisfaction with the sport would wain, I wouldn't enjoy it as much and would most probably drift away again. For me, learning to do it with some degree of skill is worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 There are plenty of different lessons at different costs.Cost isn't necessarily directly related to value. The odd thing is the best lesson i ever had involved shooting 0 cartridges and wasnt even in at a shooting ground. Did cost me £300 though! (That was having gun stock stripped and refinished as well as fitted) All the best with the lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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