yickdaz Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 the amount of lead deepends on how much is in the cartridges normally 28-32grames i think but im not sure if it is still used in all cartridges eh :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Possibly some confusion between "lead" as in the heavy grey metal and "lead" as in how far in front to aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dastardlyandmuttly Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 yes they are cofused with how much leed and lead the leed all depends on things like how far away the pigoen is how windy it is what the direction the bird is going at the length of its neck has to be taken into acount and other things as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 yes they are cofused with how much leed and lead the leed all depends on things like how far away the pigoen is how windy it is what the direction the bird is going at the length of its neck has to be taken into acount and other things as well :blink: I am a little cofused myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 yes they are cofused with how much leed and lead the leed all depends on things like how far away the pigoen is how windy it is what the direction the bird is going at the length of its neck has to be taken into acount and other things as well The length of a pigeons neck has to be taken into account?!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 The length of a pigeons neck has to be taken into account?!!!! You know nothin'............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 You know nothin'............ The more I read this thread the more I realise how little I know too :blink: GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Haha what the hell? Someone enlighten me how a pigeons neck comes into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I read the 'pigeon neck' reference as a bit 'tongue-in-cheek'. Hope i'm right, otherwise i'd love to know too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 What a load of old **** hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooting Tom Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 http://www.confused.com/?MediaCode=294&kw=confused+com+advert+exact&gclid=CJaC3P6I_6wCFWIntAodsFHT0Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 So how many people aim for the "neck" ?? That must be a joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 The length of a pigeons neck has to be taken into account?!!!! Its the distance between the the neck bar and the tip of the beak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Its the distance between the the neck bar and the tip of the beak Thats why I miss so many I was aiming for the bit between the ear and the shoulder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Thats why I miss so many I was aiming for the bit between the ear and the shoulder I dont have a spare hour to list all the reasons as to why you miss, so we will just have to go with " your just **** " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I dont have a spare hour to list all the reasons as to why you miss, so we will just have to go with " your just **** " Ouch !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dastardlyandmuttly Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 its the neck of the sort of bird you are shooting at not just the pigoen you can easily get used to shooting so much at say a goose for egsample and your aim changes a bit with something with a neck that is not as long as say a goose or a nother long necked bird can one of you guys tell me the best way to put the box around someone elses words in my speaking bit please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) its the neck of the sort of bird you are shooting at not just the pigoen you can easily get used to shooting so much at say a goose for egsample and your aim changes a bit with something with a neck that is not as long as say a goose or a nother long necked bird can one of you guys tell me the best way to put the box around someone elses words in my speaking bit please Like this? You click the "reply" box next to the statement you want to quote, and then click "Add reply". Edited December 13, 2011 by humperdingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I don't know about measuring the lead by the length of the neck , I often give a fast crossing bird 6 feet of lead, that's a lot of pigeon necks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 the length of its neck has to be taken into acount and other things as well the mind boggles :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 Lead (leed) isn't a measurement it's a feeling young skywalker............... I miss as I'm emotionally challenged !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 I don't know about measuring the lead by the length of the neck , I often give a fast crossing bird 6 feet of lead, that's a lot of pigeon necks is that 6 feet of lead or 6 ounces of lead now you are just confusing matters on purpose so how many pigeon necks do you use just as a reference ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) As a general guide. Divide the distance from end of barrel to pigeon by the wind speed in knots. multiply this by the weight of the bird divided by its altitude and pull. If the birds feeding over rape add a correction factor of 1.2. subtract .5 if using 32G of no 6. Dont worry...I never seem to hit any either. Edited December 13, 2011 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 As a general guide. Divide the distance from end of barrel to pigeon by the wind speed in knots. multiply this by the weight of the bird divided by its altitude and pull. If the birds feeding over rape add a correction factor of 1.2. subtract .5 if using 32G of no 6. Dont worry...I never seem to hit any either. I tend to use triangulation equations...but hey....your system makes sense too. Ever tried shooting a Giraffe at high speed, **** me I have to use excel quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straightbarrel Posted December 13, 2011 Report Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) sorry...D&M just pull through yanky doodle pigeon and once you get past his scarf start thinking about pulling the trigger mate. http://www.hotink.com/wacky/dastrdly/ Edited December 13, 2011 by straightbarrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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