taz24 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 . In films where a sniper is seen shooting someone and then dismantling his rifle to make a fast getaway they unclip the scope, remove the barrel and stock then put the bits in a bag and run............ So the question is. When a sniper sets up his rifle, fitting the stock, barrel and scope would he then be able to shoot and hit a target without first zeroing the rifle? Surly true long rang snipers rifles are not collasped after each shooting? taz . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Thats just the sort of question that gets cushions chucked at me when I question events in films i'm watching... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imissalot Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Do owt in films Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 if you put the scope in the exact same place then yes, how ever getting it in the place isnt easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz24 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 . In history how many people have actualy been assasinated long distance by a scoped rifle. The most famous must be JFK in 1963 but the supposed rifle (conspiracies aside) was fixed with a scope? How many, if any other assasinations realy happen like that? I think the quote you can do owt in films sums it up All the best taz . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Cheytac .408 has a fully collapsable stock that takes about a foot or so off the length I think That'd make it a little easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I just spoke to Big Vinnie and he said that after a job, he disassembles and then reassembles at the next mark (i know all the lingo!!) - it's all cushtie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz24 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 I just spoke to Big Vinnie and he said that after a job, he disassembles and then reassembles at the next mark (i know all the lingo!!) - it's all cushtie! Vinnie may not be happy with you telling his secrets.... taz . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning GTS Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Sound like a job for myth busters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) . In history how many people have actualy been assasinated long distance by a scoped rifle. The most famous must be JFK in 1963 but the supposed rifle (conspiracies aside) was fixed with a scope? How many, if any other assasinations realy happen like that? I think the quote you can do owt in films sums it up All the best taz I was watching a show not long ago about JFK & I did not realise that he was shot at 170ft with a 6.5 cal rifle fitted with a 4x scope. . Edited December 26, 2011 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 some one got a bottle of vodka from Santa then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) It is possible but a rifles action would have to be machined to very high tolerances and would have to be very exact, the action and the scope mounts machined to fitted together in one place and one place only, i.e. it can only sit in one place so it can never lose zero. Scope and action would be the hardest part, it's not uncommon to have a scoped action that has interchangable barrels that don't lose zero, even when chanding calibers. I think a lot of what you see in the movies is just Hollywood hijinx. Like the 92 shot revolver or the 35 shot double barrel shotgun. It looks cool ot have something that strips down to fit in a case but when you look at assasinations realisticly, why would an assassin weigh himself down with a rifle when he could flee the scene without it. If I'd just assassinated someone I wouldn't take the rifle with me, I'd theremite it at the same time as setting off multiple distractions and flee on foot without any suspicious looking cases etc. Here's a video for you 20mm Interchangable Barreled Sniper Rifle Edited December 26, 2011 by SAVAGE HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 If I'd just assassinated someone I wouldn't take the rifle with me, I'd theremite it at the same time as setting off multiple distractions and flee on foot without any suspicious looking cases etc. Wow, you really have given it some thought haven't you? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Just check out the Fieldsports Britain episode where they visit the Zeiss factory. They have a mounting system that allows you to remove scope and put back on and maintain a perfect zero... So do Blazer. The idea behind a picatinney rail is also so optics can be removed and replaced without losing zero but in my experience it goes back close but not perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 . In history how many people have actualy been assasinated long distance by a scoped rifle. The most famous must be JFK in 1963 but the supposed rifle (conspiracies aside) was fixed with a scope? How many, if any other assasinations realy happen like that? I think the quote you can do owt in films sums it up All the best taz . Was Lee Harvey Oswald's Carcano rifle scoped? I always thought he used open sights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 . In films where a sniper is seen shooting someone and then dismantling his rifle to make a fast getaway they unclip the scope, remove the barrel and stock then put the bits in a bag and run............ So the question is. When a sniper sets up his rifle, fitting the stock, barrel and scope would he then be able to shoot and hit a target without first zeroing the rifle? Surly true long rang snipers rifles are not collasped after each shooting? taz . In films where a sniper is seen shooting someone and then dismantling his rifle to make a fast getaway they unclip the scope, remove the barrel and stock then put the bits in a bag and run............ ,leave the rifle and put phos underneath it... as vinnie knows in a confined public place after a hit you are not going to be walking around with a tac bag entebbe june 1976 mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 26, 2011 Report Share Posted December 26, 2011 Mmmmm interesting http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IKEAWeaponry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I feel well qualified to answer this question as I used to be a hitman before starting work in a factory, of course it is possible to break a rifle down and it still zero when put back together ,cant tell you how though as its a trade secret !, anyway very few hits are carried out using a scoped rifle ,my pea shooter with the poison peas is a much better tool for the job up to about 400 yards or so. PS please dont tell anyone about me being a hitman as its a secret :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Also apparently "RizzoTheRat 5,140 posts 44 months [report] [news] Saturday 7th November 2009 With the right mounting system once you've zeroed your scope you shouls be able to take it and put it back on again without loosing the accuracy. The new sights the army are using allow them to switch between the day sight and night sight like this. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrelsniffer Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Changing/Taking off/on a scope is not the issue here as there are many scope mounts out there which allow this with out any change to zero..the problem lies when in the films they pick there package/rifle up..and all of a sudden know how to assemble/disassemble blind folded...and they then go and use it with out a paractice/zero check be done...as a ex sniper i would deffo want to check a weapon/sight before attempting to use it on a body. Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Not all locked away yet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Technically possible, but it's the movies remember! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Piccatiny rails make the scope easier but mounts and rails need to be well machined to match each other. Military snipers do have the ability between some day and night sight to clip on and off. As to the stock and action don't know but a well made stock to fix the action may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrea Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Scope mounts to do the job The Ziegler Classic Claw Mount, I would not be any good as it takes me long enough to load magazine put the bolt in then adjust the cheek piece to suit and extend the tripod!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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