matth12321 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Hello Everybody, I'm going shooting at a friends next week and the only way I can get there is by train. I was just wondering what the law is when it comes to taking firearms on trains. I was planning a 17 hmr and a shotgun... any advice will be appreciated! Cheers MATT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 The same as anywhere else you take them in public, can you be sure that no little gangsta is going to try and rob them from you? Personally I would try and beg,borrow or steal a lift in preference to the train! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) i work for a TOC, and had to ask this first hand from BTP. its a big NO-NO. Edited May 30, 2012 by MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) chrikey,,guns on trains,,cant believe such a question would be asked,,and i thought i was daft :lol: :lol: Edited May 30, 2012 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 There is no law against it but thats only because they thought no-one would think of doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 It would be like taking it on a bus? Its legal as far as I know but its safety is your responcibility. Contact the train company directly for thier stance, as I believe they can say no to guns being taken on thier trains, also like buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 There is no law against it but thats only because they thought no-one would think of doing it It would be like taking it on a bus? Its legal as far as I know but its safety is your responcibility. Contact the train company directly for thier stance, as I believe they can say no to guns being taken on thier trains, also like buses. different TOC's have different views on it. MOST say dont bother. im yet to see one who says its fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) There is no law against it but thats only because they thought no-one would think of doing it "no one would think of doing it or do you mean "no one would be daft enough to do it,,commonsense springs to mind here and what can i say,,taking guns on trains :hmm: my god what ever next,, :no: i dont like to think what could and yes i say "WHAT COULD HAPPEN" definately a crazy idea with all the idiots about today :yes: i would defo find some other means of transport to get there,,good luck Edited May 30, 2012 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If it were just a shotgun, break it down into a sports bag, who would know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If you're planning on robbing the train, go ahead....Otherwise try grabbing a lift off someone would be much wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) different TOC's have different views on it. MOST say dont bother. im yet to see one who says its fine. on this one...... You can contact them and ask or just be discrete about how you carry your gun.I've done it and seen others do the same.There more than a fair chance the staff won't know the ruling either. Edited May 30, 2012 by mr smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) If you ask they will say no, if you are in legal possession and have lawful excuse then whats the worst can happen? To take and use the HMR you would need an open cert? Forget HMR, if you decide to take the shotgun break it down put a lock through the trigger guard keep forend on your person and don't say boo to a goose carry SGC and don't take cartridges...... Home office guidance: http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/firearms/security_leaflet.pdf?view=Binary If firearms are transported on public transport they should be covered in a suitable slip/case and remain with the holder at all times, except when carried on an aircraft, for example. Worth printing if you do decide to do it Edited May 30, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If you're planning on robbing the train, go ahead....Otherwise try grabbing a lift off someone would be much wiser + 1000000000 well said :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think it is a breach of the conditions of carriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr smith Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 i work for a TOC, and had to ask this first hand from BTP. its a big NO-NO. I wouldn't really take a member of the BTP's stance on the law being correct.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 (edited) don't bring a gun on the train, guns are well known to behave badly in public. it might decide to put its feet up on a seat. Edited May 30, 2012 by artschool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I do it all the time - Gun broken, in a sports bag. No problems at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Home office guidance http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/police/firearms/security_leaflet.pdf?view=Binary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 if its securely stored in a locked case with a trigger lock on i can't see the worry, if anyone has ever been to Norway its a common sight seeing gents with gun cases on the trolleys in the airports and train stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 If firearms are transported on public transport they should be covered in a suitable slip/case and remain with the holder at all times, except when carried on an aircraft, for example. take from home office guidance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 i work for a TOC, and had to ask this first hand from BTP. its a big NO-NO. really? http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/news/511383/Firearms_could_be_banned_from_transportation_on_trains.html One train company spokesman said, as far as he was aware: “There was nothing in law which prevents legitimate owners of firearms carrying their firearms in a suitable manner.” Proves that they don't know the law and if you ask they will default to "No" as they won't have a clue. As long as it is unloaded, secure and discrete they won't have a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Could you take the shotgun and rifle apart, and possibly carry them in a large sports bag? That way, no one would be any the wiser what you are carrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 really? http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/news/511383/Firearms_could_be_banned_from_transportation_on_trains.html One train company spokesman said, as far as he was aware: “There was nothing in law which prevents legitimate owners of firearms carrying their firearms in a suitable manner.” Proves that they don't know the law and if you ask they will default to "No" as they won't have a clue. As long as it is unloaded, secure and discrete they won't have a clue Absolutely. From some of the replies here you'd be forgiven for thinking the OP intended to pop it over his shoulder in a sling and get on. I've done it, piece of ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Get a old stickered up guitar case, it's what the pro's use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 double bass case or large carboard box , stick fragile tape on it and carry it with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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