leeds chimp Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 renewed the tax credits last week and got the letter today to confirm it all. Since i did overtime last year to make up for what i lost when i was off with my eye operations and i earnt a bit more than i thought i would. They have deducted £130 a month off the payment. Thats near enough what i get paid before tax for the 2 shifts extra i was doing. Whats the point of doing the extra if i actually lose more money doing It? Thats the problem with the whole benefit system. Taking money away for people that WANT to work hard to get a better life. Would be better off if myself and partner were on the dole or just did not work as many hours each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 And if you were on the dole you could stay in bed til 11am and then get up, slip into your burberry tracksuitt and new trainers and watch Jeremy Kyle on you 60" 3D plasma whilst smoking a couple of packets of fags and making an effort to become more obese..whilst the rest of us mugs are up at 0630 to go to work to pay for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 They are taking money out of MY pay, to pay YOUR tax credits. But I am not crying about it :rolls eyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 And if you were on the dole you could stay in bed til 11am and then get up, slip into your burberry tracksuitt and new trainers and watch Jeremy Kyle on you 60" 3D plasma whilst smoking a couple of packets of fags and making an effort to become more obese..whilst the rest of us mugs are up at 0630 to go to work to pay for it... .......and turn out a kid a year, plus others if you had a few girlfriends.......all little earners. Then there's the crack round and lead stripping Or you could be a bank manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer_pigeon Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 you work so your taxes :- 1. keep bailing out the bankers 2. keep the immigrants in cars, houses and mobile phones 3. keep Royal family in lifestyle they are accustomed to 4. wont be spent on police, NHS or armed forces 5. can be abused by politicians false expense claims sorry im in a bad mood today with this miserbale weather ! feel free to add any more i missed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 The benefit system is stupid. there are way too many variables and cut offs. The best situation to be in is perfectly healthy, a couple living together working part time earning under 20K each, with kids and a massive mortgage and debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) They are taking money out of MY pay, to pay YOUR tax credits. But I am not crying about it :rolls eyes: to some extent you are right Jo but we are a low income family and would be better off on benefits. Last tax year i would sometimes work a 63 or more hours a week to make up what i lost when i was off as only got £82 a week SSP and that was it to pay for a mortgage bills etc. It just feels that being penalized for working more . The tax credits were used for nursery fees but now its does not seen worthwhile SWMBO going to work as we now have to find that extra money so she can go to work Edited July 3, 2012 by leeds chimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 The best situation to be in is perfectly healthy, a couple living together working part time earning under 20K each, with kids and a massive mortgage and debt. Doesn't sound good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thats what im saying, a couple in that situation would get quite alot of benefits which is daft. Anyway, when we talk about benefits its always hard to say because we never know a persons full situation. The idea that someone is working and receiving benefits never seems a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Thats what im saying, a couple in that situation would get quite alot of benefits which is daft. Anyway, when we talk about benefits its always hard to say because we never know a persons full situation. The idea that someone is working and receiving benefits never seems a good idea. would you work for £3.20 a hour as Thats what SWMBO will be on now we have to pay the nursery fees for her to go to work? Thats what the working tax credits are for is to help a family on a low income "afford" to go to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 wait till you have to pay 40% tax every month...that makes me cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 thats what im saying as well, unless we know everyone's financial situation we cant really comment and the fact that someone IS going to work but the work dosnt pay enough to live on and so has to be subsidized by other people seems daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 wait till you have to pay 40% tax every month...that makes me cry. You need to get an accountant mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 going off track just a little bit, my view is, if wages were quite a bit higher than benefits, there would still be a lot of people on benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) My son works off shore and his average monthly tax deductions are £2000. You should speak to him about people on benefits . I worked all my life and accrued a works pension and old age pension and I am still getting screwed for tax . Sorry not to much sympathy from me . Harnser . Edited July 3, 2012 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 wait till you have to pay 40% tax every month...that makes me cry. id love to pay 40% it would mean i earned well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 My son works off shore and his average monthly tax deductions are £2000. You should speak to him about people on benefits . I worked all my life and accrued a works pension and old age pension and I am still getting screwed for tax . Sorry not to much sympathy from me . Harnser . Why, that's less than the cost of keeping the average convict in prison, or the average 12 person immigrant family in South london! He really must pay more to society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 id love to pay 40% it would mean i earned well true but when you have to hand over a large sum every month it can get you down.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_jay Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 You made the little chimp you pay for it! People moaning about not being given enough makes my wee wee boil! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 but Thats partly what i am saying is wrong. That people working get less than those on benefits. I personally went from working 2 nights a week which was enough money for me to finding a new job that could do more hours when we knew little Chimp was on the way. Not everyone can find/get jobs that pay £20k a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 true but when you have to hand over a large sum every month it can get you down.. i expect it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 It is crazy that people work and are at best marginally better off than not working. The incentive isnt there. To avoid the **** storm I wont give my views on how to fix this. Luckily I'm not in that situation but do work long hours on my day job and then managing the accounts for my wifes company on weekends and evenings (20+ hours a week on top of the day job). The tax man had a large chunk of my directors bonus last year which made me question why we bother. I know its for the long term and the sacrifice made now will reap rewards in the future but it always feels like we're being shafted for wanting to progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 it always feels like we're being shafted for wanting to progress. you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 wait till you have to pay 40% tax every month...that makes me cry. Try 62%, that's legalised theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 . Not everyone can find/get jobs that pay £20k a year I would not even get out of bed for £20k a year. I agree with the chap above about people whining over how much child/family/working tax credits they aren't entitled to. IMO they should stop the lot of them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.