beeredup Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 a bit OTT!! kid wasnt even riding towards the torch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) Whilst I would normally agree with the above, I do feel the 'security' guy acted as he has been trained to do: caught in the corner of his eye, someone heading towards the torch, and reacted :blink: Another case of can't win whatever the result.....would you rather he just made his own decisions as to what is a risk and what isn't? I just feel sorry for all of them and glad that no-one was actually hurt its a torch not the queen what was the kid going to do assassinate it i know lets throw a kid in front of a car to protect a bit of metal Edited July 10, 2012 by storme37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) its a torch not the queen what was the kid going to do assassinate it He probably just wanted a light for his tab, no wonder the police took such decisive action! Edited July 10, 2012 by HDAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 (edited) security guy must have been bored and thought i know i will make a **** of myself and liven up everyones day to be honest at first i thought it was 1 chav pushing another chav in front of a car Edited July 10, 2012 by storme37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted July 10, 2012 Report Share Posted July 10, 2012 I think the security man will be blushing a bit after seeing this . A bit keen maybe , then again they do use bicycle ied,s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halight Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Whilst I would normally agree with the above, I do feel the 'security' guy acted as he has been trained to do: caught in the corner of his eye, someone heading towards the torch, and reacted :blink: Another case of can't win whatever the result.....would you rather he just made his own decisions as to what is a risk and what isn't? I just feel sorry for all of them and glad that no-one was actually hurt Yes mate i think you may be right. If he did not know that the bike rider was only a boy when he had to act. I dont think there is any real harm done. Apart from the kid in a bit of shock afterward, And the guys probably made it up to him once they found out he was not a real threat to anyone. But i do believe in better safe then sorry. Even kids can be a threat, you hear about kids being made to do stuff to get into gangs or being promised something in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 At the risk of invoking Godwin' Law: "The Olympic Flame was lit by a concave mirror in Olympia, Greece and transported over 3,187 kilometres by 3,331 runners in twelve days and eleven nights from Greece to Berlin.." So how come we have now ended up with it taking weeks of messing about and costing a fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 if he was a copper he should have known the differance between a real threat and a kid escaping the crowds = suspension /charges if family pursue it , if it was a gayboy sia holder he should be charged with assault as the boy did nothing wrong .the tuffboy in the tracksuit had no controll over his actions that could have easily ended up under the bmw . total disgrace to any security service . they should have handcuffed the boy then kicked him in the head for good measure to show the crowds how fuff they are . this torch carp is costing millions and gaining nowt .one big advertising stunt for the sponsors . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPopper Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Every evening this ridiculous torch relay comes on the news, and most nights I see an example of the security team being a bit OTT. Not normally as bad as this incident - just people wanting photos being roughly shoved out of the way. A couple of the security team were inteviewed the other night and I got the impression that these guys aren't the brightest and best that the police have to offer. If running alongside the Olympic torch really is the greatest honour of your career, as these guys seemed to suggest, then that says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Fair enough he should of not tried to get past ,if he was a threat why did plod just leave him at the side of the road ,saying that quick reactions and well done to them but it is his job so as for days of and medals and bonus no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Marty Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Heavy handed my left nut, The torch security team are there to do a job. They carried this out calmly and without fanfare. How else are they supposed to protect the torch..... I forgot the PW 704yd hindsight, armchair warrior gun Though I agree with some of what you said,, on the other hand as someone else said once he had stopped the lad and realised what it was he did not need to continue with his whole Kevin Costner routine.As I said before I worked the doors for years and have saw Doormen that were **** scared of real men but would over react with young lads to make them look real hard and Scarey at the exspenice of the kid. Think in my opinion at is only my opinion this is the case here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) So, if the lad on the bike ran into the torch bearer knocked him over and rode off what would you be saying? Where are the security team, what a waste of money etc etc etc. The police cannot do right for doing wrong. Should the the lad on the bike have been where he was? "NO" case answered. I am not a fan of the torch/Olympics but I am a fan of the the Police force, whom it seems get the blame for everything at the moment. responding too quick or too slow. Would you be a Policeman/Woman? just think for a moment about the Police Officer in Clacton (off duty) Edited July 11, 2012 by bakerboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Would you be a Policeman/Woman? just think for a moment about the Police Officer in Clacton (off duty) That's a low ball. The police can never be questioned for their conduct as a result? What about the matter of Ian Tomlinson, it would be pretty lame to row that into the Claction PC thread? There's good and bad in all walks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant8681 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 YAWN!! Its boring now and a complete waste of money, yes it kinda cool the olympics are here but I wish it was over! Im not supprised the security team are ott they are probably bored! No excuse to take out a kid though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 just as well this copper wasnt armed the kid would have 11 shots in his face point blank and he didnt even jump the tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson_tom Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 I think the lads a bit of a plank, he can see there is strong security around the torch so why would you cycle up to it? Common sense obviously didn't prevail. The fact is the police have probably been told nobody allowed in the "security bubble" that they form so they have done there job. The fact the kid was on a bike cycling towards the torch bearer makes him a threat all the police did was take him down the car would only of been doin 5-6mph at most so not really a massive chance of him getting hit run over as dont take long to stop a car doing that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 looked a very OTT response to me - he looked like he was just cycling past, and anyway its just a bit of metal, not unique - 8000 of them made, most of which are now on ebay. i could have understood it a little more if it was the queen holding it, or the lad had driven directly at it - but he didnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrelhall Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 How the hell did we get to this when a kid on a bike is seen as a security threat, and football fans have to be fenced in at mathes. Watch the fans in the tour of france running along side the riders up the mountains. No bodyguards there and all the police do is close the roads. This country is in big trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) oh well **** happens no harm done Edited July 11, 2012 by storme37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 i`m from haverhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 They know not to approach the torch,he was stopped-problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 They know not to approach the torch,he was stopped-problem solved. you really should change your name to perfection,if modern day mindless plod cant tell a real threat from an excited kid on bike :o we have no sodding hope whatsoever from the overzealous control freak mentality that you so willingly applaud. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Heavy handed my left nut, The torch security team are there to do a job. They carried this out calmly and without fanfare. How else are they supposed to protect the torch..... I forgot the PW 704yd hindsight, armchair warrior gun Why the hell does a fat bloke with a burning stick need security anyway??? The whole thing is a bloody farce from start to finish :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 at least they dealt with this one right, but for **** sake to say they were trying to steal it jeez the sooner they toss this bloody torch off the white cliffs the better. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted July 11, 2012 Report Share Posted July 11, 2012 Over excited kid on a bike, or theiving scum bag trying to nick the torch? He may well have been innocent, but, the police deal with kids that are completely out of control and have no respect for authority day in and day out. This may, rightly or wrongly, alter their perception towards kids. It was a split second decision to make and I believe he made the right one. If that kid had grabbed the torch and got away on his bike what would you all be saying then? Just because he was a kid certainly doesn't make him all innocent and harmless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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