Beardo Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hey nickbeardo, the questions may seem irrelevant and childish but now that the testosterone has worn off we can answer some questions. swan is not on the gen licence in this country, but i bet you some of the newer shooters from other countries have shot them. Any reason that post is directed at me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Yeah sometimes, the posts are either removed or people quickly corrected and lesson learnt. Glad to say the majority of the posts don't contain stock doves mind. Yet to see one with a "true" rock dove in mind which the op made a point about.. Karpman There was last year, in fact the picture also contained jack snipe, a very interesting mixed bag. But then the poster was in N.I. so it was okay, and I also had the feeling he was also on a fishing expedition. Edited August 14, 2012 by scolopax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 How do I reset my man trap? there's a Dead cow stuck in it :lol: :lol: I really must stop having a brew while on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 this ones been a bit lively i only just got in for a brew i have been digging a bear pit for 3 days gotta sort out these damn hedgehogs eating all me slugs i'm near out of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 The best advice if you were to shoot a swan is for heavens sake don't take it to the vets, especially if you shot it with lead shot, or you could be the second person prosecuted for using lead What you have to remember on here is there are those that shoot and those that would like to its usually the latter who haven't got a clue whats going on. Though you do see corkers daily of what not to do, this thread is tripe though and only follows a thread where you tried to argue you could sell geese and it was pointed out that it was bull poop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I still argue the point that its extremely difficult to tell the difference between woodies, racers and ferals when they are flying over a wood towards you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I still argue the point that its extremely difficult to tell the difference between woodies, racers and ferals when they are flying over a wood towards you.... Most of the time it is easy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Most of the time it is easy enough. that may depend on topography of the land you shoot on! I would challenge anyone to identify them standing in wooded clearings as they flash over - other than "it's a pigeon" Edited August 14, 2012 by gixer1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 that may depend on topography of the land you shoot on! I would challenge anyone to identify them standing in wooded clearings as they flash over - other than "it's a pigeon" if you are not sure then dont shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 if you are not sure then dont shoot you don't shoot much do you I can entirely see where gixer is coming from roosting you can be 99% sure but never completely, i've seen mistakes made and worse ones than shooting a feral by mistake. Go shooting long enough and you will see some corkers the only way of not having it happen would be to hang up your guns entirely. Shoot long enough and one day you will shoot something other than what you intended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 with all the will in the world no one is perfect... apart from me....................................................................not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd respectfully suggest that Canada Geese, being on the vermin list might get controlled better if they COULD be sold to make it more profitable. Yes that goes against the general Goose protection motive but would help to reduce the Canada problem to farmers and land owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd respectfully suggest that Canada Geese, being on the vermin list might get controlled better if they COULD be sold to make it more profitable. Yes that goes against the general Goose protection motive but would help to reduce the Canada problem to farmers and land owners. I read that this was being discussed, not to sure if its been implemented though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd respectfully suggest that Canada Geese, being on the vermin list might get controlled better if they COULD be sold to make it more profitable. Yes that goes against the general Goose protection motive but would help to reduce the Canada problem to farmers and land owners. Is there a market for em? We shoot a few each year generally first few weeks of the season keeping there numbers in check on a pond. We eat most of em a few got to dog food. Not the finest eating bird I have come across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I'd respectfully suggest that Canada Geese, being on the vermin list might get controlled better if they COULD be sold to make it more profitable. Yes that goes against the general Goose protection motive but would help to reduce the Canada problem to farmers and land owners. Do you not think this would lead to canada annialation rather than control?. Money tends to bring the worst out some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 I wouldn't eat one for free let alone buy one to eat they tast like **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Nothing wrong with Canada goose if you get a young one. If you don't like eating them don't shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Did I say I did shoot them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Love this topic. when did i say i was an expert? First post, when you made a massive generalisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) if you are not sure then dont shoot I am 90 odd percent sure it's a pigeon - but what type? give me a break! you don't shoot much do you I can entirely see where gixer is coming from roosting you can be 99% sure but never completely, i've seen mistakes made and worse ones than shooting a feral by mistake. Go shooting long enough and you will see some corkers the only way of not having it happen would be to hang up your guns entirely. Shoot long enough and one day you will shoot something other than what you intended Yup! would love to see how many ducks/geese people would shoot on a flight if they waited to be "100% sure" - from my experience you are shooting at a silohette and a certain wing sound - but no way 100%! as Alex says - you may as well hang up the kit now as it's rare to be 100% sure.... I can confirm that a graylag and a **** look extremely similar on a foggy morning at 5am when there are 10,000 geese lifting! i've POINTED a gun at one a few times! Edit to say - the filter removed the bird type - It was a S H A G :blink: Regards, Gixer Edited August 14, 2012 by gixer1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bolt94 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 With all due respect, "Newbies" are the future of the sport and the only way said individuals will learn and pick up this vital information is from experienced shooters or people who have gone through a similar process with regards to applying for certain things, buying, selling or shooting quarry etc. I myself am on a learning curve and I am sure I have asked a few pretty dozy questions and have probably resurrected the .17hmr vs .22lr debate like most new people to the sport and this forum do. I greatly appreciate all the help I get from this forum and it has helped me bucket loads!! Thanks folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Any reason that post is directed at me? no not directed at you, just noticed your name appeared in the watching list, and as your a mod it's blue, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 and as a lot of people have confirmed by p.m and by phone it was a good point to bring up and the resulting childish and inadequate responses where as expected, but the question had to be asked and in the same context the answers had to be given, and sadly they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that my first comment was spot on. Take the ****, have a laugh but at the end of the day its your loss. With all due respect, "Newbies" are the future of the sport and the only way said individuals will learn and pick up this vital information is from experienced shooters or people who have gone through a similar process with regards to applying for certain things, buying, selling or shooting quarry etc. I myself am on a learning curve and I am sure I have asked a few pretty dozy questions and have probably resurrected the .17hmr vs .22lr debate like most new people to the sport and this forum do. I greatly appreciate all the help I get from this forum and it has helped me bucket loads!! Thanks folks! Great that you could find some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tel Time Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Love this topic. First post, when you made a massive generalisation. still stands after reading through all the posts made last night. I am 90 odd percent sure it's a pigeon - but what type? give me a break! Yup! would love to see how many ducks/geese people would shoot on a flight if they waited to be "100% sure" - from my experience you are shooting at a silohette and a certain wing sound - but no way 100%! as Alex says - you may as well hang up the kit now as it's rare to be 100% sure.... I can confirm that a graylag and a **** look extremely similar on a foggy morning at 5am when there are 10,000 geese lifting! i've POINTED a gun at one a few times! Edit to say - the filter removed the bird type - It was a S H A G :blink: Regards, Gixer so sad to see someone shoot themselves down and give any antis watching some free ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thats why we recomend that people join one of the shooting organizatins that way you have accurate advice when you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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