onefulham Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I just put the radio on Radio 2, the Jeremy Vine show, one of the topics today is a so called animal rights campaigner demanding shooting mags are put on the top shelf along with pornography, might be worth a listen or even a call ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Sorry I did not spot the other post on this subject mentioned the issue is on Radio 2 now as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why is it all these tree-huggers get to "demand" what's what, but we don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 because they will stand up for what they believe is right and we, knowing that we are legal will not stand up for ourselves, we take it for granted that the organisations like BASC will do it for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 If they want to win this pathetic little "victory", who cares? I can still see the top shelf. (errr so I would imagine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Just listened to the programme. Tree Huggers 1, Shooters 0. If those are the folks speaking on behalf of shooting then woe betide us. I've done a lot of media work and training and the UKIP and CPSA bods fell in to all the traps. Indeed, the UKIP chap just made himself look an ****. The net result is the tree huggers sounded more rational and logical to any other normal, non-shooting person i.e. most of those listening to the programme. The only two decent comments about the topic i.e. putting the magazines on the top shelf, cam from the wheelchair shooter and the 16 year old - perhaps they should speak for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavarianbrit Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Vine has had a few anti gun shooting programmes in the past so he appears to be very biased. I want my license fee back. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanielchris Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Football mags will be next!! They will say footballers hurt the grass!!! Absolute JOKE!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Would it be potentially beneficial for the likes of BASC and the Countryside Alliance to run regional media relations courses that are free to attend for members? Shooters could definitely do with some lessons in the BS that the lefty loonies seem so well versed in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Online here for those that missed http://www.bbc.co.uk...player/b01m32xy 1:38 ish in it seems. Shooting was on R4 earlier too re stolen guns used in crime http://www.bbc.co.uk...player/b01m5n7z from about 16 minutes in why can't the understand that a low revocation rate means a very high % of law abiding certificate holders, not a lax control system! Edited August 29, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Seems to be a broad attack on shooting , combining the top shelving of shooting mags and a Gun control network report on missing firearms, just on the news, what they are trying to do is just keep chipping away to make it a general feeling that shooting of any sort is wrong and bad. I have to disagree about the Vine show, I thought both put there points across but the shooting guy seemed the more reasonable of the two, with the anti guy more extreme, we have to move the general public view away that shooting is ONLY about upper class toffs blasting away at Grouse etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) Edit the animal rights activist has never read the "field". He must have kittens when he sees children at the meat counter in supermarkets! I dont think Mr Tyler has a clue, and is trying to "protect other peoples children from things he doesn't like" definitely a cotton wool head. Edited August 29, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Next time i go to the news agents, i will have an excuse then. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Thought the discussion was a bit of a non-event really.Thought the vegan's contribution was interesting;taking her train of thought(not killing any animals AT ALL)to its logical conclusion would have made for an interesting discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste eibar Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 So this mean's ill be able to find a copy of sporting gun next to my copy of Big jug's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenntiger Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 i cant get my head round the comment about kids having to look at dead animals in shooting mags and they should be 18 to read them how many of these kids that read it and take up shooting turn out to be murderers rapist and thieves i would,nt have thought any its just another way of trying to get the public on there side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 But it's perfectly ok for them to buy magazines that have screen shots of video games where they shoot at graphic people even ones they are talking too on headsets ! "It's only ok to kill animals attacking your home" what about the ones attacking your livelihood or invasive ones attacking native species I would rather take my chances as a grouse or pheasant than a commercial reared chicken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 result saves me bending down to get sporting gun of bottom shelf i can now collect my """""" mags and shooting books in 1 fall swoop who cares what them weido"S think about glorify killing of animals im sick of thinking im doing something wrong here when im not long live face book they let us put dead foxes on there for the world to see im proud to hunt shame i was was not born in america i wood have bigger guns . **** the tree hugger"s and anti"S im not hiding its a shame the muppets don't have owt better to moan about like people with out jobs and state of are country and people who miss treat kids things like that thats much better now i feel better back to work and face book poker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I caught part of it when the anti guy , whoever he was, was chuntering on about 200 dead pigeons. Possibley he believed they had been reared especially to be shot rather than the result of a neccessary pest control operation. The eejit running the show, was it Jerry somebody did sound biased against country sports. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) I haven't listened to it myself, but, IF it was biased then one would hope that BASC or the CA are going to put a complaint in? Nothing will change if they sit back and do nothing, and I certainly don't pay my membership for them to just look on. Maybe someone from one of the organisations would like to comment? DavidBASC? Connor Gorman? Edited August 29, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 BASC were defending us on radio 4 at the time I do wonder where the researchers get the details of people to phone in for these things not the worst vine session I have heard, my guess is there is a fairly anti researcher on staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 BASC were defending us on radio 4 at the time I do wonder where the researchers get the details of people to phone in for these things not the worst vine session I have heard, my guess is there is a fairly anti researcher on staff One hopes they have more than one media savvy employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I listened to the show on and off while it was live and got the jist of it. If anything is corrupting our children more, it has to be xbox games and the like. Chopping Zombies up, running round with the pick of all the best weapons and killing people as you choose, after you have smashed up that expensive car you just stole. Xbox is where the feral kids with no respect for other peoples property, or life, future serial killers and the like, are being groomed, not shooting magazines, if of course you wish to believe in that kind of rhetoric. Typical remark made by that veggie, but us carnivores can make an equally good argument why we eat meat, after all, as has been said many times, if we weren't meant to eat meat, then God would not have made it taste so good. But personally I am not into banning ANYTHING, not unless there is irrefutable evidence to do so, and the court case takes as long as it does to convict a corrupt politician. Then after all those years we can be sure we did the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) The Animal Aid chap came across as desperate sometimes, and most of what he said seemed driven by his imagination. He claims to know alot about the industry, yet he comes out with very few points. His main concern seems to be that there are some pictures in which people are happy they have shot something. I suppose we should all look sorrowful after a red letter day and take a handy black arm band should we manage to down a few birds. Its disapointing this was even given air time actually. Its like my good self going on the radio and 'demanding' that motor sports magazines should be made top shelf becuase they encourage dangerous driving and glorifying high performance cars to those who do not have a driving license. Edited August 29, 2012 by cant hit rabbits 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Dear All, Yes we did have Bill Harriman on Radio 4 at lunch time yesterday, and of course we have loads of trained media people in BASC, apart from the press team all of our regional and country directors and several other staff are media trained. Mr Vine certainly likes to take controversial issues and run a ‘debate’ on them on his show, that of course is his prerogative, and tiny pressure groups will try to punch above their weight by ‘demanding’ this that and the other. The ‘top shelf’ issue is an attack by Animal Aid, and unlikely to go anywhere but of course we will keep an eye on it. There is no will in parliament at all to move shooting mags to the top shelf. David Edited August 30, 2012 by David BASC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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