Fat Dog Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 The conditions attached to our firearms stop you keeping them like that. Agreed, I would imagine it would be quite difficult to explain having a loaded gun at your bedside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 the point is you can defend yourself, you just can't set out and prepare to kill intruders. Personally I sleep very soundly at night and am not of the paranoid persuasion. But I do know no one would break in un anounced as the dog would create merry hell first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 The proposed law change is not to allow people to make provision to defend themselves, it is to bias the legal proceedings in favour of those who find they are compelled to do so using whatever comes to hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 the point is you can defend yourself, you just can't set out and prepare to kill intruders. Personally I sleep very soundly at night and am not of the paranoid persuasion. But I do know no one would break in un anounced as the dog would create merry hell first. A big dog is a very useful aid to a good nights kip or a relaxed evening out ,especially if you live somewhere remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 compelled to using whatever comes to hand. There are numerous household items that can make a very effective deterrent to someone coming up your stairs at you, Maglites are useful and easy to explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 What about cross bows? Mind you, they are a bit tricky to reload - that's why I always keep at least 4 barnet tridents primed and ready to go under the bed next to the kids toys and have the odd one duck taped round the house under tables, behind mirrors and pictures and strapped to the leg etc. Clunk-click. Bravo two zero out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 What about cross bows? Mind you, they are a bit tricky to reload - that's why I always keep at least 4 barnet tridents primed and ready to go under the bed next to the kids toys and have the odd one duck taped round the house under tables, behind mirrors and pictures and strapped to the leg etc. Clunk-click. Bravo two zero out. You mean you don't have a vac-packed one hanging off the shower head?!! These crims don't just strike when its convenient you know! Amateur... For reference: My 'rig' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 A big dog is a very useful aid to a good nights kip or a relaxed evening out ,especially if you live somewhere remote. liitle ones work just as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Always have some thing to hand and a pair of steel toes cap boots by the bed. I hope that I never have a situation where I will need to grab any thing to defend the house and family, but if it comes to it I will. On the hand gun side of things tho, what bout airsoft and c02 very realistic technically none voilent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 well i dont think you will get the gun out the safe fast enough,so to me a gun is a no, no.in the usa its fine thats there law,enter the house and look out.if you look on a usa forum they all ways ask is buck shot good for any one breaking in,thats what a lot of them use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 dogs work not just because the burglar is necessarily scared but they know anyone home will be awake and most don't want a confrontation. Though we have had ex cons selling round here recently and they all run, bit like the DNDS delivery bloke he runs well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Cheers Mungler,just spat a mouthful of apple all over screen and keyboard! Just one question tho,does a trident loose power being kept cocked for long periods of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 is there a crossbow version of snap caps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Al4x i have some for sale are you interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 the fact is if you aren't acting in self defence then its still going to be difficult to get out of prison, keeping a gun by your bed should require all guns to be taken from you and licence torn up. So anyone that bolts their cabinet under their bed too then alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 So anyone that bolts their cabinet under their bed too then alex Interesting point as one of cabinets is in my bedroom wardrobe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 So we accept that going the way our American cousins and having specific weapons for home defence is a long way off (probably not in my life time) but hypothetically speaking if I own a shotgun and have it locked in my bedroom, would I get away with shooting an intruder in the chest with some home loads, maybee rice (not egg fried, that probably wouldn't work) of airsoft bbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 If your gun is in your bedroom then you are worse off using specific rounds prepared for the event than a good old load of commonal garden 6's If the cabinet is there and you could get the gun out and loaded before the intruder came in then fine go for it no problem at all. You could take it downstairs and ask them to clear off and if threatened shoot them legitimately as well. Its all about using what comes to hand but without keeping the gun loaded by the bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 great just need to order the IBC of quick lime and a wood chipper an jobs a good un Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Libs, when did you take a piccy of my shower? I have also set up a series of traps in my house - growing the hardwood tree in the lounge to get a decent size branch with enough spring in it to pull off the Rambo stylee shin swiper was a big ask of the missus, but when it comes to home defence there's no half measures in the Mungler household. Seriously, why have stuff as gay as windows locks, CCTV or a decent Red care alarm hooked upto the police station when you can give it the full on medieval shizzle. Anyways, I was talking all of this through with my ex SAS mates and we all agreed that we would just need our bare hands. I can't say any more other than that I am ex SAS, have seen lots of active duty including the Libyian embassy siege and I took a bullet for the Queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 we must be careful gentlemen as after a while when enough burglars have been shot the normally unarmed burglar may decide to tool up as he may well conclude he may have to shoot if the householders waving a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Some of you may remember The Fox, a rapist and thief who broke into a lot of houses in the area where I used to live during 1984. I and a lot of other shooters in the area kept our shotguns by our beds. I fitted a lock to the bedroom door so I wouldn't be caught unawares whilst asleep. http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/nostalgia/crimelibrary/malcolmfairley/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 just get my SWMBO to stand there naked that would make them run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) If your gun is in your bedroom then you are worse off using specific rounds prepared for the event than a good old load of commonal garden 6's If the cabinet is there and you could get the gun out and loaded before the intruder came in then fine go for it no problem at all. You could take it downstairs and ask them to clear off and if threatened shoot them legitimately as well. Its all about using what comes to hand but without keeping the gun loaded by the bed. Oh I have not a thought in my head about what I'd do with intruders, the cabinet keys aren't upstairs anyway! we've been done over twice already. As Mungler has eloquently put it, we have a dog, double glazing and a decent alarm system, but to be safe I wear a Freddie Kruger glove in bed, if they break in I'll wait, then once near the bed, 'swish', and off come eyelids and ears, I also have a stripey jumper and have melted my face on the griddle for full horror effect. No-one messes with me... Edited October 9, 2012 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldivalloch Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 There's an awful lot of Charles Bronson fans on this forum, by the looks of it...... And the next full moon's not until the 29th of the month! Now, where did I put my Wildey .44 Automag......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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