rapid12 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 hi, i have a second gun cabinet which i need to fit soon as my main one is full do i need to phone my fao to inspect once fitted. cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 It wouldnt do any harm in doing so. I did when I added a second one, but didnt tell them until they paid me a visit for my renewal. They didnt give me a trelling off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrelsniffer Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I didn't notify Cheshire..only when renewal came up and they did the visit did i tell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger955i Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I would say yes with out a doubt and I certainly would not store any shotgun or rifle in one which had not been passed by my feo. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Security of firearms is your responsibility and yours alone. There is no requirement in law to have them vetted by an feo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) Won't hurt to drop them a line notifying them. As long as you fit it nice and secure like your other, I doubt they'll even come out until they need to. If in doubt at all, just give them a ring and enquire. My FEO's office are actually quite nice and helpful. Or, you could jump on the 'hate the police' bandwagon and not tell them out of principle. Your call. I know what I would do Edited October 31, 2012 by huffhuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloke Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Although I doubt there is a law (I am sure someone will be along in a minute to correct me if I am wrong!) - Lincs Police certainly ask you to tell them of any changes and come when they are in the area to check them. I don't see the problem, and when I changed my house insurance and asked if my guns were covered, the salesman said yes, as long as they are stored in approved cabinets when at home, that are approved by my local police as checked. No real hassle to let my FEO know, and it gives me a chance to get all the shooting gossip from him- top bloke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 My FEO told me if / when I put another cabinate in I will need to ring them to see it in place and approve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiffy Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 i may be new to the requirement of a gun cabinet but unless i see it in writting from the licensing authority i would ring/email them to check. preferably email so i would have a reply in writting should they not come out and check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 My FEO told me if / when I put another cabinate in I will need to ring them to see it in place and approve it. He is just flexing muscles he doesn't have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Security of firearms is your responsibility and yours alone. There is no requirement in law to have them vetted by an feo. Absolutely. :yes: But if it will make you feel easier then let the police know. For heavens sake don't let Bedwards1966 find out if you do, or it will be more fuel for his Police State tirade! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Round here the last two times I moved they just phoned up to confirm the address change asked the cabinets location and whether it was bolted to the wall and that was it job done. I would drop them an e-mail if I fitted a second cabinet but I can't see they would be too worried they didn't come out and see the main one. Vice versa I didn't tell them when i moved a cabinet 3 times during building work on a previous house each time they did actually come out it was somewhere different and never mentioned it. Absolutely. :yes: But if it will make you feel easier then let the police know. For heavens sake don't let Bedwards1966 find out if you do, or it will be more fuel for his Police State tirade! :lol: Have you noticed every time said poster wants to comment there is the pre cursor of "I think" now that also means I also have no idea but will drop something into the mix anyway just to see who I can confuse even if it is completely wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 I rang mine he said thanks I'll look at it when you renew your SGC it was only 3 years away. As stated its your responsibility once you have the SGC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) When I upgraded my cabinet i informed the FEO before i did anything and supplied what even he probably thought was possibly an over the top level of information........FEO decided he was satisfied and didn't need to visit . remember if you are upgrading to the point where you can hold/ want to hold a large number of guns(usually taken as 10 but not defined as such ) the home office guidance starts to require a higher level of securityin addition to the cabinet . Edited October 31, 2012 by Canis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 just gave my feo a quick ring when i put my second one in. in all honesty its just easier, gives them the oppertunity to check if they want, and update your records as to your storage capacity. surely its better that way round than having a call saying you've got 'y' amount of firearms/shotguns and on record only have storage facility for 'x' amount. not from personal experience of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the big shot Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Just give them a ring, that way you are covering yourself should anything go wrong. You dont want them turning 'round and saying the guns were kept in an unapproved cabinet or location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 hi, i have a second gun cabinet which i need to fit soon as my main one is full do i need to phone my fao to inspect once fitted. cheers. No. J. Security of firearms is your responsibility and yours alone. There is no requirement in law to have them vetted by an feo. Well said. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Won't hurt to drop them a line notifying them. As long as you fit it nice and secure like your other, I doubt they'll even come out until they need to. If in doubt at all, just give them a ring and enquire. My FEO's office are actually quite nice and helpful. Or, you could jump on the 'hate the police' bandwagon and not tell them out of principle. Your call. I know what I would do Nothing to do with a 'hate the police' attitude. The chap asked whether he had to tell the police. The answer is most certainly NO. Why would you do something that you are not required to do? We constantly complain about how long it takes the police to grant, renew and vary certificates and every time you notify them of something or ask them a question it fills up time during which they aren't available to do other things. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 My FEO told me if / when I put another cabinate in I will need to ring them to see it in place and approve it. That isn't true though. It could only be a requirement if they appended a condition to that effect to your FAC which they would never do. If you didn't tell him then what is he going to do about it? Nothing is the answer because there is nothing he can do. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 When I upgraded my cabinet i informed the FEO before i did anything and supplied what even he probably thought was possibly an over the top level of information........FEO decided he was satisfied and didn't need to visit . remember if you are upgrading to the point where you can hold/ want to hold a large number of guns(usually taken as 10 but not defined as such ) the home office guidance starts to require a higher level of securityin addition to the cabinet . It doesn't. There is not 'required' level of security other than the level which is contained in the condition on your certificate. That being, 'reasonable precautions to prevent access by unauthorised persons'. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 There is a condition on my file about my cabinates location and that I need their approval to add another for storing shotguns, yet theres nothing about how many I can put in the existing cab don't have a FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongo321 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) just gave my feo a quick ring when i put my second one in. in all honesty its just easier, gives them the oppertunity to check if they want, and update your records as to your storage capacity. surely its better that way round than having a call saying you've got 'y' amount of firearms/shotguns and on record only have storage facility for 'x' amount. not from personal experience of course. +1 just what i did , he popped round verified my storage amount and a extra ammo/bolt safe i got , He gave me the firm impression thats the procedure , from a double up in storage and house move and got a visit , and both visits within 6 months of the other . After i notified of both move and extra storage i was ok to use them pre-visit. I felt better he had been and confirmed capacity + situ , and a good chat and brew . Edited October 31, 2012 by bongo321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 hi, i have a second gun cabinet which i need to fit soon as my main one is full do i need to phone my fao to inspect once fitted. cheers. I did but then again it was for my FAC ,I'm moving soon does any one know if I tell them first ,sorry to hijack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 I did but then again it was for my FAC ,I'm moving soon does any one know if I tell them first ,sorry to hijack Just tell them afterwards and they'll have the choice whether they want to come out to re-inspect. If it's a different force they will almost definitely want to come out as you will be new to them. Prior to the move, store your guns somewhere safe (temp storage with an RFD) so you can move and refix your cabinet without it being the No1 priority on moving day. To the OP, there is no requirement to inform them of a second cabinet, but I'd give them a bell just out of courtesy. It's their call then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Interesting thread - we all refuse to advise the police when we go out lamping and yet we'll call them out to check a cabinet just so we are 'on their right side'. If you are given an FAC, they check at first visit - beyond that you are responsible to provide the security they advise you of - if you dont you lose your guns its as simple as that. We all know what 'approved' cabinet means and endless threads of where to fix the things shows we can sort that too. I am amazed that those who wont go for public safety will go for 'personal protection'. I have installed 2 safes and only shown the police at renewal when they were coming anyway. Have any of you had new guns granted without a place to put them - the police dont need to know about security - its YOUR responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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