Davyo Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Pondering on a variation as 2 x farmers on neighbouring land have approched me & asked me to shoot foxes, as troubling livestock.What is the best calibre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 This will be like the air rifle .177 vs .22 debate ! Most common must be: .22 Hornet, .222, .223, 22-250, 20tac, .243 ! There are others but i suspect these are most common. I would look at the .223 as its most common to keep cost down ! ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 all depends if you want the option to shoot deer but if you do then .243 and if not any of the .22cf's my preference would be .223 or 22-250 but they all work at normal ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Cost wise probably 223 or the option for deer 243.I went 22-250 after a lot of looking and pondering and wouldnt swap it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Well there's not really the "Best Calibre" as such. All of the .22 centrefire calibres are good enough for Fox Control. I chose .22-250 and its a very fast and flat round that does the job for me. ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) There has been a lot of debate previously about this, a look through history may help, it will also show there isn't one! There will only be a best one for your circumstances, but we don't know what your circumstances are! Edited December 6, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 .223 = cheap to run, quieter, large range of factory ammo available most places, plenty of new/used rifles around. .243 = a bit more expensive to run, a bit louder, large range of factory ammo available most places, plenty of new/used rifles around, legal for all deer if the occasion arises, the most adaptable caliber around in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 I chose .22-250 its a very fast and flat round that does the job for me a M8 has got a .223 and it dose the job for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 there all same any of them will deck a fox 200 plus no bother just find 1 you like iv had 250 never rated it 223 was better for me and 12 quid a box for ammo you can shoot rabbits at that price with it lots more fun than hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 22-250 but I do like my dads new 204 ruger what a cal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 On pure balistics the .243 win 4000fps with a 55grn 3650 fps with a 70 grn, this takes a lot of beating and if its real windy you can now get some 80-90 grn 6mm varmint bullets. That said its not always about balistic advantage if your going to be shooting under 200 yds and want a cheap to keep lightweight fox gun that moderates realy well the .22 Hornet takes some beating. Whats most important is what you need as we dont all shoot the same ground or put them to use in the same way. I own the above two and find every base covered from rangey shots on the hill to cubbing time near the earths etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) .204 - 4250fps (so it says on the box) Hornady Varmint Express 32g Vmax Awesome fox round 1" trajectory over 250yds !! Virtually no recoil - easy to stay on shot. I should add - It suits me - we're all different !! HTH Edited December 6, 2012 by V8 90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 223 for me 55grn sako arrow heads..40 or so foxes this year with it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 there all good. i like different calibres for different reasons. so have 17 rem, 22/250 and 243 as its deer legal. not had chance to use the 243 yet but a good bullet range choice. 3650 fps seams alot out of 70 grain bullets in 243 though ! didnt know they could be stoked that high and what barrel length is needed to get these speeds. i would have guessed it would have been in the 3450 to 3500 mark for this weight bullet.. but havent loaded any up to try over chrono yet. will do in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dedicated fox round upto 300 YDS in the right hands get a 223, it's cheap to run, if you have deer also ,get a 243 it will drop both simples, Atb flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Dedicated fox round upto 300 YDS in the right hands get a 223, it's cheap to run, if you have deer also ,get a 243 it will drop both simples, Atb flynny Agreed All the above will drop a fox before you no you have pulled the trigger or the fps guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 .243 is the best foxxing round, afterall it was designed as a long range varmint caliber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Beat me to it beretta28g. Was just going to type .243 was designed as a long range varmint cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 not all forces will give 243 just for fox though. bear that in mind before picking. would be best to ask your force if you could have one just for fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 not all forces will give 243 just for fox though. bear that in mind before picking. would be best to ask your force if you could have one just for fox Unfortunately we go round and round with the regional lottery here yet again, the Home Office guide clearly states the .243 IS fox suitable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 there all good. i like different calibres for different reasons. so have 17 rem, 22/250 and 243 as its deer legal. not had chance to use the 243 yet but a good bullet range choice. 3650 fps seams alot out of 70 grain bullets in 243 though ! didnt know they could be stoked that high and what barrel length is needed to get these speeds. i would have guessed it would have been in the 3450 to 3500 mark for this weight bullet.. but havent loaded any up to try over chrono yet. will do in the future. It will go faster but only if you are totally sure of what your doing. 24" barrel will do it easy, these figures are published data i do push them a bit harder myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Dedicated fox round upto 300 YDS in the right hands get a 223, it's cheap to run, if you have deer also ,get a 243 it will drop both simples, Atb flynny My mate uses a .223 rem (indeed a few do) and i have total confidence he will drop any fox up to 300yds in reasonable conditions. If you aint a well practised shot or shoot in very exposed locations i doubt anything with more umph will help. Personally i fancy a .260 rem running a 95grn v-max perhaps? but i can see my local area being difficult over that ( i do live in a very exposed area) so as varmint 6.5mm bullets are not as quick and easy to obtain as 6mm i shall stick to what i have done fine with. .243 is a poor choice if your on a closed cert as most land is only cleared for .22 cf mind Lancs seem to like .223 max when clearing foxing land, it dont effect me but the buyer should note this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 With North East as his location the choice of calibre will no doubt be decided by what firearms department he comes under. All the centre fires mentioned will work very well it is just to open a question to answer. Plenty of good second hand rifles around so price should not be the issue, and with the backing of 2 farms and well written letters the reason to posses seems to be ok. If they will allow a .243 for foxes then I would go for that as you never know what is around the corner because thing change and opportunities arise, in truth ask you department as it is a variation and plan ahead. TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapper trev Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 22.250 does the job for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Thanks for all the advise lads, gives me something to think about, i will be speaking to both Durham (who i am licenced under) and north yorks (the area i shoot) on Monday.Reason being that the farms are in North Yorkshire area & incase of a land survey on the additional two farms has to be carried out by North Yorkshire FLO. I've met the FLO from NY(nice bloke) before as he had a walk around and survey the 1st farm & pass it off as it had not been prevoiusly surveyed.The 2 additional farms are neighbouring farms so hopefully this will extend the boundries. Again Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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