BRNDL Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Only one person... Again, no need to make this so difficult chaps. Openness and honesty will prevail if you all answer this very simple question and drop the "I dont want to answer this because I may contradict myself" approach. No not shy, far from it. Just juggling work with trying to drag the truth out of you stiff upper lip chappies... Lolling at myself here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 I was speaking to a barrister a while ago. He would love some of this. Like all barristers his job is to discredit a witness. He does this by asking as simple question "do you consider youself an honest person?" The answer is generally "yes" where he responds "what you have never broken the law" and the normal response is "no" He then says "so you have never, for example, broken the speed limit". Now this is where it gets tricky. The average answer is "well I have no convictions" so his stock response is "ah so you have never been caught that's not the same is it Mr X. Answer my question. Have you every broken the speed limit". Now this is where it goes one of two ways either "Yes I am afraid to say I do speed occasionally" which is the right answer at which point the judge will say "move along now Mr Y you have made you point" and he will try another tack. or "no I have never broken the speed limit" which is almost certainly a lie and he has done what he set out to do. Discredit you in front of the judge and jury. You will be amazed how many people fall into that trap. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Can't help remembering the opening post, which asked for contributions. If only it had said that only one word answers would be accepted. It could have saved a lot of heartache. Lolling at myself here... Don't worry, I suspect we are all laughing with or at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 (edited) I was speaking to a barrister a while ago. He would love some of this. Like all barristers his job is to discredit a witness. He does this by asking as simple question "do you consider youself an honest person?" The answer is generally "yes" where he responds "what you have never broken the law" and the normal response is "no" He then says "so you have never, for example, broken the speed limit". Now this is where it gets tricky. The average answer is "well I have no convictions" so his stock response is "ah so you have never been caught that's not the same is it Mr X. Answer my question. Have you every broken the speed limit". Now this is where it goes one of two ways either "Yes I am afraid to say I do speed occasionally" which is the right answer at which point the judge will say "move along now Mr Y you have made you point" and he will try another tack. or "no I have never broken the speed limit" which is almost certainly a lie and he has done what he set out to do. Discredit you in front of the judge and jury. You will be amazed how many people fall into that trap. hahahahahahahahaha...baaabbbaaaahahahahahahahahahaha Feeble dishonest individuals that WILL NOT REVEAL the truth about them as individuals. Merry and dont forget to inform you FAO of ALL your mishaps with the law....if you have any that is! . On that note, good bye for now Edited December 14, 2012 by BRNDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Will see how long that lasts. A man of his word?????????????? :hmm: :hmm: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Openness and honesty will prevail Nice introduction to my question. A variation to the one AVB suggests, but to 'BRNDL rules'. A one word (from a choice of two) answer. To BRNDL only: Are you honest or dishonest? No waffle, 'tales from when you were a lad', explanations or qualification. Please simply answer either 'honest' or 'dishonest'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanL Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Personally I wouldn't brand someone a criminal if they had bought cigs and booze beyond their limit back from France as long as it was for their own consumption. Ever paid money and had a CASH job done on the farm/house hold, hired a labourer for the day and paid him cash? All these are black or White situations. There is no such thing as a limit if it's coming from the EU and its for personal use. Also, just because you pay cash is not a sign of anything doing anything criminal. There are some very good buisness reasons as to why people use cash which are perfeclt legitimate. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 There is no such thing as a limit if it's coming from the EU and its for personal use. Also, just because you pay cash is not a sign of anything doing anything criminal. There are some very good buisness reasons as to why people use cash which are perfeclt legitimate. J. I assume he is implying that by paying cash we would be aiding and abetting in tax evasion. By the same measure, I guess by not reporting BRNDL for tax evasion we are aiding and abetting a crime. There's a conundrum...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 He will probably turn himself in to stop Interpol having to intervene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 i run my 4x4 on red all the time, not for the cost saving. just the red derv is closer than the forecourt and i dont have to que. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 i run my 4x4 on red all the time, not for the cost saving. just the red derv is closer than the forecourt and i dont have to que. :lol: :lol: :lol: ,i bet your BRNDL,s taxi :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr15j Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 With the exception of a 40 in a 30mph fine 24yrs ago have never been in trouble with the law so I am indeed law abiding. so that answers your 1st point I dont smoke have never done so and only bring back the amount of cigs I am allowed for family if asked, have a very good source for cheap whisky so no need to smuggle that either so its a no to your second point my friend. Maybe makes me boring but def law abiding, oh and wait til you here this one, I work abroad BUT still pay my taxes!!!! Just because you havnt been caught doesn't make you law obiding I used to speed all the time and never for caught, I was just lucky. I then got camera van'ed and am going on a speed awareness course. I do my best now not to speed as I've used up my get out if jail free card but I know I have a few tines anyway. The law is absolute and black and white. You either break it or don't. If you break it, but don't get caught you still broke it. We all break the law at least once a week, fact. How many have continued to hold guns when renewal cert delayed. the difference is intent and remorse as well as recognising you shouldn't and trying not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 :lol: :lol: :lol: ,i bet your BRNDL,s taxi :lol: :lol: Im no ones taxi. It dose beat paying full price @10mpg it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Im no ones taxi. It dose beat paying full price @10mpg it helps. Go and get your tin hat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Why? I wouldnt be able to run the jimny on white diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Why? I wouldnt be able to run the jimny on white diesel I trust this is a wind up given your previous posts but if not it is simply ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Vosa have been know to randamly select diesel vechiles from dvla data base and knock the registered keeper up at stupid oclock & dip the tank. Everything from a fiesta to a tranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Vosa have been know to randamly select diesel vechiles from dvla data base and knock the registered keeper up at stupid oclock & dip the tank. Everything from a fiesta to a tranny. course they do they only work 9 till 5 pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) I trust this is a wind up given your previous posts but if not it is simply ridiculous Just wait until the sleeping policeman reads this...cockercass is in for a stern telling off from the law... Edited December 15, 2012 by BRNDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) thay say ****** usually have a hidden tank that they run on diesel & when stopped the white diesel tank gets dipped. but i think they now as well as dip tank take fuel sample from the filter. Edited December 15, 2012 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 (edited) course they do they only work 9 till 5 pm I currently work for HMRC and applied for a transfer to VOSA, but could not pass the medical, as i suffer from COPD,and i could not pass their medical.Part of their job is checking HGV's so you have to pass a Haz chem exam which includes a medical.The job description clearly stated that you may be required to take part in unsociable hrs operations. Edited December 15, 2012 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I trust this is a wind up given your previous posts but if not it is simply ridiculous Not a wind up. The jimny really wouldnt run on white derv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRNDL Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Not a wind up. The jimny really wouldnt run on white derv I am intrigued, how come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE AD Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 i know some one who was caught, and he had two have his tank cleaned out, and new pipes on it,he did not put it in, he bought the range rover and did not know it had red in it.he did not get fined.he then had two take it back and show them all been changed. too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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