BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 One for the diabetics amongst us. I am type 2 (or was at time of writing), my blood suger until recently averaged 6.6 to 7.4 on the anual reviews which is pretty good. Noticed when I checked the after meals it was creeeping up to around 11.0 to 12.0 with the odd blip up to 14.0 not good so went to docs and they said nowt to worry about yehh :(. I was put on pain killers naproxin 500mg a couple of weeks ago for arthritis, and had a severe reaction to them, sevear gut pain and throwing up. :( Doc changed to codine pain killers to take as required. fortunately pain not been to bad apart from the gut pain and the odd throwing up. Over Xmas had a few treats like a few chocies, which normally get away with, not been feeling too good the past few days, so checked my blood suger and it was nearlry 24.0 really ****. Checked it again the next morning before breakie and its was 13.0 still really **** for that time used to be around 5.0 or 6.0 in the morning. Best I have got it down to is 8.0 just had tea and 2 hours later its 22.0 and probally still climbing. . I am on the max dose of Metfartin 1000mg three times a day, and hope I can get a doc's appointment tomorrow, don't want to go on insulin, wondering what alternative medications people are on and what side affects they have. Been on metformin (commonly known as metfartin for obvious reasons) and fed up of being hit by meds side affects. . Its as though some one has thrown a switch going from being reasonably well controlled to no control, really brassed of with this and the docs really not taking any notice of when some thing is not quite right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I'm also type 2 diabetic and on the max dose of Metphormin. I'm also on two other drugs in addition to the above. Get to the doctors as soon as possible. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am on the max dose of Metfartin 1000mg three times a day, sorry but cant help but laugh.... as it runs in my family and i will get iy looks like type 1 so get to the docs asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Trying to get a appointment is like mission impossable, one gets the impression they run a blocking service and say they are fully booked, when you go to the surgery its empty, think its one of the practices that has large number of complaints against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john12 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 As said I would get to docs ASAP. It does sound like type 1. Don't worry tho, when I was told I was type 1 thought the world had come in round me,but had a grounding from someone which made me see that others had it a lot worse. Now manage it ok. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 sorry but cant help but laugh.... looks like type 1 so get to the docs asap That is my fear as its suddenly changed drastically, I got feed up of reguarly checking sugers as the practice said as its controlled and type 2 theres no need to check and just do an odd ocassion when feeling rough. Starting checking more often a couple of months ago as felt it was not right and looks like I have been proven right, **** law its over a bank hol period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Im on the metfartin but also on gliclazide as well, maybe you can ask doc about that as well, readings are very high though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Your blood sugar clearly isn't under control. The longer it is the case, the greater the chance of damage. See someone soon and insist on an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Tried it on two meters and different test strips and they were within 0.1 of each other, surprised me how fast the drastic change has been over the, past few days. The warning signs were there in that the levels were rising with the odd glitch, when the docs say nothing to worry about, you would expect them to be right. Was the same when first diagnosed, I knew some thing was wrong and doc said nothing was up, carry on as normal. A couple of months later was sent to the docs from work, as I looked like deaths door, drinking fluids like theres no tomorrow and low and behold confirmed diabetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Im on liraglutide after a clinical trial I was on so I have two years of data on how I control my blood I inject it once a day and although my blood sugar is quite high sometimes the monthly averages are fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoggieman Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 If your surgery does not have a specialist diabetic nurse you must demand to see a doctor. Failing that get someone to drive you to the nearest hospital. I too have this problem but have it under control with metformin and diet though the eyes play up a little from time to time. See someone has soon as possible please do not wait to be seen in their time. I hope things sort themselves out for you and we can read a post from you stating that you are now back to normal. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Bought my old man some diabetic chocolates for Christmas. About £3 for 12 but he loved them. Boots iirc did them You can get sugar free mints from Aldi too they are better than the ones with sugar in for me You can still enjoy.a few treats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sounds like a perfectly normal response to consuming large amounts of sugar. Have you been drinking too? Alcohol has a lot of sugar in it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkey Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 You can ask about gilizicide an additional tablet a couple of times a day will help Stay clear of piaglitzazone you will put loads of weight on with this another tablet You can ask for byetta a form of injection twice a day though they do have a once a day and I think a once a week one of them now Also victoza another injection similar to byetta Then insulin Not the end of the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footu Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 You don't go from type 2 to type 1, it's a different pathology. You canbecomes diabetic with age normally- its if the pancrease stops producing insulin. Normaly type 1it's childhood onset and genetic link. Type 2 is obesity related..sugars can go haywire in both if you have infection as your body fights it but if this is just after meals you need to see a specialist for medication review and Proper diet planning. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Taking insulin aint that bad I have insulin and metformin and feel a lot better for it one thing you will have to do if you start on insulin is let DVLA know but be careful how you fill in the poorly worded form.You do need to get medical advice my diabetic nurse has been brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Sounds like a perfectly normal response to consuming large amounts of sugar. Have you been drinking too? Alcohol has a lot of sugar in it too Had a few chokies which was Xmas and boxing day, don't drink alcohol, excess sugar intake was over and done with and was what was in what I could normally tolerate (does go up normally to around 10.0 with the chokies), yesterday even after eating a plain buttered roll went sky high think it was around 18.0. Five hours after eating a meal tonight, down to just over 12.0 normally around 7.0 by now. Will see what it's like before breakfast in the morning a good day would be around 5.6 with a low of 4.5 on a bad day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Taking insulin aint that bad I have insulin and metformin and feel a lot better for it one thing you will have to do if you start on insulin is let DVLA know but be careful how you fill in the poorly worded form.You do need to get medical advice my diabetic nurse has been brilliant. That's one of the problems as DVLA have already nobbled my driving licence through other problems, and wonder what they would do next. DVLA had me on a yearly licence until they were happy with all the specialist reports. I hate those medical forms as had a pile of them to fill in and cost me my licence for a good while and I hate public transport. My practice lost its specialist diabetic nurse several years back, and was never replaced, only option is to see another nurse who arranges the tests, then see a doctor if results are out of what the see as their limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 BerettaSV10. Welcome to the world of sugar level checking on a regular basis. You said you have not been well recently and are still not right - that can and does lead to higher readings as your body tries to balance itself out. One way to look at your sugar levels and how to keep these reasonably low without starving yourself is to cut down on carbohydrates as they turn into sugar as your system digests them. This includes Bread, Pasta, Potatoes and such like. The best way to eat and still feel satisfied without doing you any harm is to include vegetables each day in your main meal; as much as a third of your plate should contain veg (not taters - you have to reduce the amount of these due to the way they are turned into sugar). Eat lean meat or fish or chicken and try not to consume too much butter on your rolls - aint good for you anyway - even though it tastes great! One other thing you should speak to your GP about is who is your medical care team for your diabetes? We are all entitled to have one (not your GP and their nurse - they are only a small part of it) but a full medical team usually operating via a the Diabetic clinic from your nearest hospital. From them, you will get the best medication for your condition - not just the old cheap as chips Metformin that your GP will throw boxes of them at you. No, your medical team should be getting you to talk about your diet and your eating style; exercise and healthy eating. The team will consist of a Consultant, a dietician, a senior Diabetic nursing manager, the diabetic specialist nurses and the paediatric (foot care) and also the eye clinic who will photograph the inside back of your retinas with a special camera; to watch out for any detrimental changes over the year. This team are who will decide what medication tratment you will go on - not your GP. Your GP is great for everything - remember that but it is specialists who will deal with you and your condition. Be aware too - they will want to speak with your partner to ask them about your eating habits and so on - and if you are keeping to the eating plan they ask you to develop with your dietician. All this is your right - not something you might want to think about and then possibly consider for the future. Type 2 is an insidious wee ******* that will not get well of its own free will - you have to control it with all the back-up of your health care team and they will really look after you if you work well with them. Go on line and check Type 2 diabetes and what you can expect with your health care to treat it. I think you will have a lot of reading ahead of you. I have been type 2 for some 8 or 9 years now and my health team are brilliant. I still take 4 Metformin a day as well as 50 ml of Lantus at bedtime and Humalog 3 times a day (both insulin but have different give rates. I used to be on the Byella and Piglatizoni and Glicazide as well as the Metformin but it only helped me for so long then they moved onto this regime and I'm doing fine with it. What you have to also be aware of with Diabetes is that you can and likely will develop other health problems but if you keep on top of them you can beat them; take for example HBP. No exercise - ride a desk chair all day like I did - get up and get moving regularly and start to include 10 mintues a day walking at a moderate pace. Don't eat the butter you spoke of earlier - yeah yeah I know I'm not leaving you with much to enjoy - eh? Take it this way; I had a stroke in March this year and they still don't know what caused it. What they do know is - what I wasn't doing that would have helped me towards not having the stroke like exercise, cut down on fatty foods (all the good tasting ones) and change my eating habits like bread and taters and all that lovely pasta. Lets face it - so what if you **** a lot? If it keeps you healthy then it must be good for you and to hell with the folks around you. I hope you get better and very soon fella - life is too short to hang around waiting for what it will bring you. All the best. Pushkin :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) When you was prescribed the naproxen was it prescribed with omeprozole? I was prescribed naproxen by the doctors for my neck 500mg twice a day along with 1-2 30/500 co-codamol 4 times a day, kept getting rotten stomach cramps and was told by hospital I should have be given omeprazole to take in the morning before anything else to help protect my stomach and also lowered the dose of neproxen to 250mg but 4 times a day to balance it out so it wasn't such a big hit in one go. This sorted my cramps out, no idea about diabetes though. Seems daft swapping a strong anti inflamitary with a painkiller as they do different jobs, I'd see is you can try the 250mg naproxen with co-codamol but make sure you get the omeprazole, it does something to your stomach acid I think they doctor said and stops it reacting so aggressively to the naproxen. Hope you get sorted. Atb Gary Edited December 31, 2012 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 I have been diabetic since around 2000, and switch to olive oil spreads and brown bread streight away (the butter was a treat and the frst I have had any since diagnosed), and managed to get control fairly easily. The foot screening was intially spasmodic, then every 18 months roughly and only in the past couple of years been put on 6 monthly checks and the hospital eye photograghy took over from the optician about 4 years ago and last results were all clear. The practice used to operate an automatic call up system for the annual checks, but that has long since gone and relies on the patient making contact, so can easily be miissed. I book as much as I can for Nov The foot screening has revealed (rather confirmed) I have diabetic nerve damage in the feet, never had the support of a diabetic team, doctor keeps it in house as they say its better, though been thinking of changing them as there is only a couple that one has faith in, and can't get appointments with them as every one wants to see the same Docs. When I was prescribed the naproxen it was not prescribed with omeprozole, when I went back with the sevear pains, the doc wanted to put me on co-codamol, but I can't tolerate paracetamol, give me headaches, he mentioned other meds to combat the side affects of naproxen but ruled them out and said the only alternative was the codine as when required. Its mainly the pain that gets to me, as the knee joint is full of arthritis and out of alignment, though some thing else is wrong as can feel some thing squidge and move on ocasions and thats when the real pain sets in Got up around 8:30 am BS was 9.3, breafast was brown toast with spread (not butter) & 2 cups of tea just checked BS 2 hours later and its 14.6, not a good start to the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Metformin wont cure you, its only to help you help yourself. in such high doses it sounds like your objection to background insulin has forced the medics hand here. The high levels are a result of too much sugar in your diet from the festivities Drinks, sugary snacks etc. People on metformin only have no business checking their blood other than a means of showing them they need to change their diet. Sounds like you need to know a bit more about what you eat to me. I am a type 2 diabetic and know how hard it is not to have that extra glass of wine or give the pudding a miss, but its better than the complications that high blood sugar WILL give you. If your sugar is high take the dog a long walk, get a push bike and lay of the carbs, booze and sweet stuff. Leave the meter in the drawer and sort yourself out, they are for telling a type 1 how much insulin to use and when not to drive etc.etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 been type 2 for 8 years taken off metformin after 1 year as its a good way to get the runs .been on glikazade ever since and ramprisil< dont know its spelled right>.one thing my diabetic nurse said was never take anti inflammatry drugs with diabetic drugs as they stop them working.dont know the whys n wherefores but its worth asking the question of your doctors.if your doctors are pants your local hospital should have a regular diabetic clinic where they can give u diatary advice Burton hospital does advice sheets for food and gives free blood test machines too .dont let them fob u off diabetes secondary problems are evil .if u get no joy switch doctors ive done it in the past where they just chuck pills at u without checking wots actually wrong .good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B725 Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Ever scince I was told I was diabetic I have a blood test every 3 month regular checks with the diabetic nuse, retinal checks every 12 month and phone calls to check every thing is ok,in short I do not think they could do much more for me,all this has been done without me having to ask for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Ever scince I was told I was diabetic I have a blood test every 3 month regular checks with the diabetic nuse, retinal checks every 12 month and phone calls to check every thing is ok,in short I do not think they could do much more for me,all this has been done without me having to ask for anything. Now that's what I would call a helpful practice, get the feeling mine take the opposite approach, do nothing until it's too late. Even get total opposite opinions from doctors in the practice, my whole blood count is low, and the doc I trust wanted to shove cameras in places that cameras should not be going another just says keep taking the iron tablets. Had blood test results back for the annual diabetes checks, and flagged up for a repeat, had them done another doc said nowt wrong and carry on as you are, yet the reviewing doc who I never heard of (another new one, practice appears to have a high turn over of docs) wanted me in to discuss the results. The trouble is its hard to get to see the same doc twice :( :( Edited December 31, 2012 by BerettaSV10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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