enzonapoli1990 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Are 28 gram 7.5 cartridges ok for pigeon shooting or should i keep them all for clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 they are fine over decoys as long as you keep to sensible a range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 They will kill decoying pigeons ok, around 35-40 yrds max. I found you get too many runners much past that range. 30g-32g 6s are a good alrounder, decoying, flighting, roost shooting etc... I personally prefer a 28g-29g-30g of 5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Use nothing else on pigeons nowadays. And can't see me using anything else in the foreseeable future. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Chuck them away or use them up on clays. I was given a case several years ago and still have the last few boxs in the gun cubbord incase I even shoot clays. I have fired a couple of hundred of them at pigeons and they will kill up to 35 yards but beyond that the percentage of wounded birds is too high. Any closer than 25 yards and the bird is riddled with holes , usualy too bad to eat. There is a reason why no 6 is the most poplar shot size , its the size the majority of people find works best for them. Edited February 4, 2013 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Chuck them away or use them up on clays. I was given a case several years ago and still have the last few boxs in the gun cubbord incase I even shoot clays. I have fired a couple of hundred of them at pigeons and they will kill up to 35 yards but beyond that the percentage of wounded birds is too high. Any closer than 25 yards and the bird is riddled with holes , usualy too bad to eat. There is a reason why no 6 is the most poplar shot size , its the size the majority of people find works best for them. Sorry but that's an opinion I don't share, I also think 28 7s and such are fast gaining popularity. But this debate has been done so many times now. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 As said many times, the only reason buy clay shells to shoot pigeons with is because they are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 As said many times, the only reason buy clay shells to shoot pigeons with is because they are cheap. Exactly. I wonder how many people would use clay loads if the pigeon cartridges were the same price........ Not many I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Exactly. I wonder how many people would use clay loads if the pigeon cartridges were the same price........ Not many I bet. Found no difference in bag size, kill ratio or amount of wounded/feathered birds in all honesty. Why would I change. I can pick a box up and go clay shooting too if I wish without having to worry about shot size restrictions. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Sorry but that's an opinion I don't share, I also think 28 7s and such are fast gaining popularity. But this debate has been done so many times now. Karpman shot 28-7.5s on the pheasants on friday,tall birds,skeet and 1/4 all you need is the right lead. craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Some continental 7s are British 6.5s - the Spanish GBs are for certain. 6.5 is a great pigeon load. They were recommended to me. Having said that, I have used one box out of 250 and have switched back to my usual 32g 6s.On live quarry I feel I owe it to the bird to use something that will pack a punch. The smaller shell just didnt hit them hard enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joknob Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Some continental 7s are British 6.5s - the Spanish GBs are for certain. 6.5 is a great pigeon load. They were recommended to me. Having said that, I have used one box out of 250 and have switched back to my usual 32g 6s.On live quarry I feel I owe it to the bird to use something that will pack a punch. The smaller shell just didnt hit them hard enough for me. depends on what kind of shot you are,have seen some good game shots using 28 bore on stupid high pheasant and killing all.in this part of the woods ,we all use 28/7.5 on most things and have no probs at good range. craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 just bought a slab of the Eley pigeon 6.5s not used them yet so hope there ok or i,ll be going back to using the cheap 7 1/2s normally around £60 a thousand cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Exactly. I wonder how many people would use clay loads if the pigeon cartridges were the same price........ Not many I bet. You're probably right, that's why i started using 'clay' cartridges. But these days, i don't think - for general decoying at up to 50 yards - a continental 7.5 (English 7) can be beaten. At the moment i can get them for under £155 per thousand and they will do all i ask of them. The balance of pellets per ounce and pellet energy is just right. Having said that, for shooting at a bit more range, a 32/34gm 5 would probably fit the bill. As most of the pigeons i kill are under 50 yards, a 7 or 7 1/2 is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 You're probably right, that's why i started using 'clay' cartridges. But these days, i don't think - for general decoying at up to 50 yards - a continental 7.5 (English 7) can be beaten. At the moment i can get them for under £155 per thousand and they will do all i ask of them. The balance of pellets per ounce and pellet energy is just right. Having said that, for shooting at a bit more range, a 32/34gm 5 would probably fit the bill. As most of the pigeons i kill are under 50 yards, a 7 or 7 1/2 is fine. If your using an EU shot size 7.5, then they are the equivalent of a UK 6.5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Heard kent velocity are a british 7 as there an american size 7.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Chuck them away or use them up on clays. I was given a case several years ago and still have the last few boxs in the gun cubbord incase I even shoot clays. I have fired a couple of hundred of them at pigeons and they will kill up to 35 yards but beyond that the percentage of wounded birds is too high. Any closer than 25 yards and the bird is riddled with holes , usualy too bad to eat. There is a reason why no 6 is the most poplar shot size , its the size the majority of people find works best for them. Continental 71/2 is not UK 61/2, it is UK 7. There is one table that shows a UK 61/2 as 2.41mm which is incorrect as that is the size of the UK 7 and hence the confusion. UK 61/2 is 0.0990", or more commonly now, 2.5mm. An ounce or so of these in a lighter gun (sbs) complements the above at a marginally reduced range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 taken from sporting gun website.. However, Gamebore’s Kent Velocity is already stonking value for a clay shell in 28gm format, plastic or fibre wad, shot size 7½ only. That said, Gamebore’s Kent brand happens to be the American manufacturing arm of the company and thus that shot size 7½ actually equates to an English 7 (2.4mm). And that, in my book, makes it suitable for some game shooting. I would not recommend it for serious pheasant shooting, but it does have a place and pigeon shooters in particular, I guess, will be pleased with the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Bear in mind that not all clay shells contain what it states on the box, some contain smaller shot than 7.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Bear in mind that not all clay shells contain what it states on the box, some contain smaller shot than 7.5. +1000 i cant state this enough. thats why #6s are ideal for pigeons. its a set standard game shotsize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 doesnt realy matter to me as i dont shoot at things i cant hit, 30 yard pigeons, 25 yrd rabbits etc... i have hit and killed crows with airguns at 20 yrds so im sure clay loads would kill one at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 taken from sporting gun website.. However, Gamebore’s Kent Velocity is already stonking value for a clay shell in 28gm format, plastic or fibre wad, shot size 7½ only. That said, Gamebore’s Kent brand happens to be the American manufacturing arm of the company and thus that shot size 7½ actually equates to an English 7 (2.4mm). And that, in my book, makes it suitable for some game shooting. I would not recommend it for serious pheasant shooting, but it does have a place and pigeon shooters in particular, I guess, will be pleased with the price. The problem is is when someone says 71/2 shot you're never quite sure whose sizing system is being referred to. As international agreement on which country's sizing to adopt is probably out of the question, the sooner we use the sizing system proposed by one of our members and all cartons are marked accordingly the better. For example, size 270 or size 340. Yep, you've got it in one (that's the clue) and there's no confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 an air rifle will kill a fox at sensible ranges, its cheaper than getting a proper rifle..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 an air rifle will kill a fox at sensible ranges, its cheaper than getting a proper rifle..... better get your tin hat out lol colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 no...i use a slingshot for foxes and red deer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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