throdgrain Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I bought another barrel for my 870 and the gunshop insisted it was put on my cert, despite the fact that of course the original one didnt have a serial number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexander1948 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 you do need a sgc the law states gun or part there of so any part of a gun counts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesley121 Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Regardless off your or your friends engineering experience. For my own piece of mind and protection of my life, I would still have the gun reproofed So many thing can go wrong and it only takes one to go wrong and you've either lost a finger or eye at least or your life. Laws are there to protect us and others. If experienced gunsmiths have to do it, what makes you think your more knowlegable to be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syborg Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 20 years of engineering experience, common sense, the ability to know my limits and the fact that no law is broken or will be because I'm not trying to sell it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 you do need a sgc the law states gun or part there of so any part of a gun counts . wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 There was a long thread on this a while back. The law seems pretty muddy on the whole thing, but there is a specific bit of legislation that was linked to (and I'm not going to dig it out) which stated that you didnt need a ticket to hold a barrel. Now, that to me as a layman sounds insane, but it is apparently the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parapilot Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 There was a long thread on this a while back. The law seems pretty muddy on the whole thing, but there is a specific bit of legislation that was linked to (and I'm not going to dig it out) which stated that you didnt need a ticket to hold a barrel. Now, that to me as a layman sounds insane, but it is apparently the case. As said read the long thread poster last month, some members went into detail on it. Seams it's not illegal for S2 parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syborg Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Thanks folks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 you do need a sgc the law states gun or part there of so any part of a gun counts . I understand where you are coming from but whichever way you look at that you have got a bit carried away. You do NOT need FAC/SGC for screws/springs/woodwork/etc., so not quite "ANY" part of a gun! There are also exemptions in the Firearms Acts for people lending guns to other people in some situations, and a FULL member of a Home Office approved club can move/transport guns without any personal FAC/SGC under club official instruction! Also exemptions for film etc, and a RFD isn't strictly a FAC/SGC holder, they are a RFD. No doubt there are other exemptions but are we being pedantic here, in principle "I understood" you need a FAC/SGC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I've been thinking about this in the end I decided I would have just got on and done the job in your position and not told the world. I think I would have taken it to the proof house or at least fired a proof load before holding it and pulling the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syborg Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) I haven't done anything yet.......And if I do have contact with a reloaded so he will prep me a proof load. Then it will be a very very long piece of string and a bench vise about 7 miles from anywhere Edited March 4, 2013 by syborg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I haven't done anything yet.......And if I do have contact with a reloaded so he will prep me a proof load. Then it will be a very very long piece of string and a bench vise about 7 miles from anywhere There's no such thing as a reloaders proof load, unless you are working to a known over pressure recipe and measuring the barrel before and after then you'll not be achieving anything. I understand that a proof is achieved at something like 50% above max working pressure. You can raise pressures significantly by using more shot than a recipe calls for but unless it is measured in some form it's pointless. A proper proof test is about £40-60 depending how much of a hurry you are in. Money well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardH Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Categorically you do not need a certificate for a shotgun barrel or any other component part of a shotgun Thats directly from Bill Harriman in shooting times. As for the original poster be very careful, a proof test would be advisable but they are your hands and you are only issued two, personally proof is £25 well spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLuke Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 There was a long thread on this a while back. The law seems pretty muddy on the whole thing, but there is a specific bit of legislation that was linked to (and I'm not going to dig it out) which stated that you didnt need a ticket to hold a barrel. Now, that to me as a layman sounds insane, but it is apparently the case. Link provided earlier in thread for anyone looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syborg Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 I take it that it has to go to London or Birmingham or are there other proof houses that rfd use for reproofing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 Just get on with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Yes there are only two proof houses London or Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canis Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 op - make life easier - take the barrel to and be present when your friend is doing the work. i dont believe theres anything stopping you from taking the gun for proof at either birmingham or london yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.