Rogc Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Just had a look in my cabinet, and noticed some surface rusting on a recently reblued barrel. The cabinet is in the loft, and can suffer some quite large temperature swings, thus resulting in condensation and therefore the potential for the dreaded rust. I have now wiped them down with gun oil, but ideally want to stop the moisture forming, or remove the moisture as it is formed. I have just ordered a couple of Dehumidifier Bag and am really hoping that this will sort out the problem. Any other suggestions ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 napier vp90 i find they work well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Heater in the safe. Battery operated, I'm sure someone will post an appropriate link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Can't remember the make, but I have seen re-chargeable little units being advertised. Someone on here will know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxus77 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) i keep my guns in gun socks also start from £10 up to about £50 for Beretta ones EDIT even cheaper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Remington-Silicone-Treated-Gun-Sock-52-Rifle-Shotgun-Shooting-Oil-Air-Bag-Slip-/160902726917 i have a few browning ones and really happy with them help protect against scuffs etc also Edited March 24, 2013 by maxus77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Pay a little more and get some self regulating heat tape - put on outside - slab insulate over, with a stat in the space set to about 12C . Tape is about 5-10 w/m so 40 w would do standard cabinet. You could put it inside if you fancy drilling the cabinet then 2 m would suffice if you lag the cabinet. Condensation tend to start to form in most houses on surfaces below about 10/12c (dew point). D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capm1 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I had the same issue relocate your gun safe ASAP to a warmer spot in the house as due to extreme temperature changes in the loft and gun cabinet it will keep happening I couldn't stop it with napier x 3 heater may work well but gonna cost to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daks Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 i keep my guns in gun socks also start from £10 up to about £50 for Beretta ones EDIT even cheaper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Remington-Silicone-Treated-Gun-Sock-52-Rifle-Shotgun-Shooting-Oil-Air-Bag-Slip-/160902726917 i have a few browning ones and really happy with them help protect against scuffs etc also Best idea right there ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Fairly dramatic temperature changes are experienced in many people roof spaces. It will obviously depend how the cabinet is mounted but removing all boarding and loft insulation from below the cabinet will help to reduce temperature fluctuations in the cabinet. Silica gel and other de-humidifying product can help, as too can a VERY low wattage light bulb in the cabinet, or VERY low power heater. Appropriate oil protection and regular checks are also advisable. The obvious answer is move the cabinet, I guess that has been discounted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 The obvious answer is move the cabinet, I guess that has been discounted! Unfortunately this is the only place it can be mounted so Im rather stuck with finding a solution to the problem. Gun sock, oil and silica gell fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartph Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Remington socks on eBay £7.25 to your door, I've just brought another one I have v90 and a dehumidifier cartridge in the back of my cabinet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Remington socks on eBay £7.25 to your door, I've just brought another one I have v90 and a dehumidifier cartridge in the back of my cabinet Will the socks fit over a scope ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfiddler Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I can sell you a dehumidifier if you interested, £50 + p&p, new in box (opened) £100 in b&q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogc Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I can sell you a dehumidifier if you interested, £50 + p&p, new in box (opened) £100 in b&q Thanks for the offer but that sounds a bit drastic, and there is no way i could keep the loft de humidified. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Buy some cheap silicone sealant and a few packs of polystyrene ceiling tiles-spot them in all four corners and stick them all over the outside of your cabinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakoQuad Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Will the socks fit over a scope ?. yes they do, I use the Remington socks on all my rifles and shotgun as they protect them against knocks and dings in the cabinet. I was recently dismayed to find some rust on the inside of my cabinet door and I use VP90 and have it secured in a warm part of the house where there isn't any condensation. No idea where that came from! No problem with rust on any guns though so the VP90, light oiling and remington sock combo seems to be working for me but haven't got the extra problem of a cabinet in the attic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Never mind the outside of the guns think what is happening to your bore and chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 the wood must be getting wet also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodydog Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Streetwize twin pack on amazon are rechargeable, I have them in my safes and I have not ever had any rust, the best £20 I have spent. Atb Woodydog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) My father in law bought a very low wattage heater to put inside his piano as damp was making the keys swell and stick. It works a treat so you could try looking for a piano heater? Edit to say they are also called wardrobe heaters. Edited March 25, 2013 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 A mate of mine has a 40 watt light bulb in the cabinet which is enough to keep the temperature constant inside . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Many years ago my cabinets were kept in an attic,and I found lining my cabinets with polystyrene paper(it came on rolls like wallpaper) and was about 2mm thick,did the trick.Not sure if you can still buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Goto an electrical wholesalers and ask them for as many of those little silica gel packets as they have laying around, I have mounds of the stuffed everywhere in my cabinets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Enclosure heaters are the way forward (and cheap) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc0tt Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 A bowl of salt in the cabinet will draw the moisture, Top tip for laying cars up over the winter too. Bowl of salt in each of the footwells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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