The Ghost Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 Sad news, not sure if I would be gutted at loosing what I thought was a good mate or angry that he had taken me for a mug. I can understand you feeling angry and sometimes thats not the best time to talk to someone. I think if he is a keen shooter he will be a PW member and read this post, if that is the case I doubt you will have to say anything to him. He will have a long time to reflect on what he has done, at the end of the day his mistake has cost him dear. “Keeping baggage from the past will leave no room for happiness in the future.” Good shooting for the year ahead. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepasty Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Be sure to let him know that his actions has now lost him further shooting with you, a friend and permission from your farmer friend. I dont get these kind of people, I'd rather sit in a hide with a buddy and have litte bird action than sit in a hide by myself and have lots of birds. For me its as much about the camaraderie and banter as it is the shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Tell the farmer your ex mate is after playing with his daughter "job done" happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Tell the farmer your ex mate is after playing with his daughter "job done" happy days :lol: A bit of the rocksalt express! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karpman Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Seems a bit of a **** to be honest, I'm pretty lucky in that my mate shares his perms with me and he has many I also have a few of my own. On the other hand I never go without asking ever. I never keep anything from him and works well for us and the farmers of whom I'm on first name terms with. It's down to respect or lack of it. Karpman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I have 4 farms to shoot on I would be happy to show some one the ropes by them coming with me, but for the same reason this post started it is never going to happen which is quite sad. I have a 5th farm now asking me to shoot NOW!!! but I would struggle to get round 5 effectively It would be nice to be able to say this is a chap I taught, he is safe and reliable and let him have the permission but I cant do it for fear of losing my reputation you just dont know who to trust. To the original OP I would send my wife round to sought she is not nice when wound up. lol Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 i would re-fraise the word friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asa Bear Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Thing is, the farmer had a field (fresh drilled) covered in pigeons You cant take it up with the farmer but definately have a word with your "mate" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 That has to be the worst thing ever. If I was in your situation I would let him know how you feel, I would tell him that he will never shoot in your company again and make sure that he is aware that he is never to go near your perm ever again. Getting perms is hard enough but giving a friend the chance to shoot it with you, then to be treated in this manner is just not on. These kind of shooting buddies are not needed and are the reason that a lot of shooters will not take others on their ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimitar Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Some people are just not to be trusted, last weekend I had my first night out for over 2 years. It was only holding the lamp but I am so grateful for the night out I would never think of betraying my friend by calling at the farmers and asking for my own permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrelsniffer Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) I have recently been let down also by someone i thought was a good mate which is sad as we had some good days out and thought he was a true friend...all started as my shooting buddy as it does he wanted his FAC so i helped with being his mentor ect but his land was not suitable so i asked my farmers to sign a perm slip to help him get started and as i work out the UK he would then do me a favour and do the pest control while getting his own suitable land .. we also got a few bits of land while shooting together...then i asked a simple straight forward question that if we ever do fall out for what ever reason then it goes back to how it was before we shot together,i said this due to what some else mentioned to me one day not thinking it would actually lead to what happened and he would say yes no probs mick....well he didn't like what i was asking and things went down hill from there...he stopped contacting me started taking someone else on my shoots that ive had 10+ yrs...in the end i said hes not welcome no more as i feel a mug after everything ive done to help him, he thought if we did fall out what was originally mine would be his....he just never realised that what i did was a favour ....anyway he recently well few months back turned up at one farm where the farmer had a few words...i did say to him though that what we got together hes still free to shoot...but to think he could just swan onto my land when ever he thought he could is just so low...oh and he still has quite a bit of gear of mine which he borrowed i did ask for it back but was ignored again...all the farmers are now aware of this and all on my side...shame it came to this. He is on here so no doubt will read it. Edited April 13, 2013 by barrelsniffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Presumably if he said to you I can't make that day but shall I go down for you on Friday and just keep them in the air for the farmer and then you can do the biz Saturday that would have been seen as being a right good mate? keeping you sweet with the farmer etc taking care of the permission, showing a presence, making a bit of noise and so on? He would have been seen as helping you out and you probably would have been dead pleased because he had done you a favour and you would have been happy to let him do it on a regular basis. " I'm working Friday Mr Farmer but Joe will be down to stop them settling for you - its all in hand" These people are such fools Edited April 13, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabery 3 Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 This is why the country is ***** ! No principles !! The man is well out of order, i would not give him a SGC because he can not be trusted, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 It is very sad and quite distressing that trust, gentlemanly behaviour and (even) honour mean less than self interest. We who hope we have these characteristics, regret the loss - those who do it, care not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 Have been taken on plenty of land not only shooting but working the dogs and driven there so i know the way,hand on heart i wouldnt dream of going back alone . its a sneaky nasty trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted April 13, 2013 Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 If I were you unless you wanted to tell the bloke how you feel I would just sever all contact. Don't answer calls and if the farmer is happy to **** him off if he turns up there jobs a good un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrelsniffer Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 It is very sad and quite distressing that trust, gentlemanly behaviour and (even) honour mean less than self interest. We who hope we have these characteristics, regret the loss - those who do it, care not. Well said words Kes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fielddweller Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Called in to see the farmer this afternoon but he was out,plenty of birds about so went home for kit.report and pic to follow in pic forum.Havent heard from my mate and ive cooled off a bit so i think i will just carry on without him,probably tell where to go if he phones me. Atb Fielddweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here iam Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 if he does this it wont be long before he is back tracking for the permission as well tell him to do one also tell him why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 That's a bit below the belt. I suppose he could have been trying to keep your land owner happy, but then when you called he would have said that or better still mentioned he could do Friday for you in the first place? Like the rest of the posters here, I wouldn't be standing for it. I share ground with several shooters, both them on mine and me on theirs. I sure as hell wouldn't just turn up at their farm without discussing it with them first and none of the blokes that shoot with me would do that on mine either. It's just not on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksshooter Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 The days of trusting a mans word are sadly over i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 He is no mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestcontrol1 Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 ******* lower than a grass snakes belly that makes my **** boil i would have gone straight over and stopped it there and then. Hes no mate if hes doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspark Posted April 15, 2013 Report Share Posted April 15, 2013 After reading all these replies i thought I would like to add to this subject. As a shooter myself now for over 30 years there are certain unwriten rules that one should never break. Anyone lucky enough to be asked out on some ones permission to shoot should feel honored that they have been asked and been given the chance to shoot. They should respect that they have been given an opportunity in the first place. If they want to shoot at any other time they should always as the person with the permission first if it would be ok before any contact with the farmer. To do what this person has done is beyound contempt, with no regard for his friend at all. After all it was his friend who first gave him the chance in the first place. As permissions are hard to come by in the first place word will soon get around and no one else will ever want to take this selfish self centred person out and he will soon find it hard to shoot anywhere else. Shooting is a close nitt family and there is absolutly no room for idiots like this in our sport. I can only say that any one who did this to me would be finnished for life of ever shooting with me again. With friends like this who needs enemies. Every body feels differently about these sorts of things happening but I realy do think you should have a word with this person and tell them how you feel and that he is no longer welcome to shoot with you again. After a real bad experiance like this it will be very heard to trust some one else but to be fair we are not all like it, im sure that on the whole, you will find most shooters are a real good bunch of chaps and lasses and would never stoop so low. all the best mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulus Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Got to admit its happened to me more than once or twice over the years Have lost so called friends that I thought I could trust some were mates for years all lost over some silly shooting or stalking permission It never ceases to amaze me the levels some will stoop to either I know how you feel and it hurts Regards CWD get off my land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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