looking for land

[paulypup]

Hi there to all out there,

 

does anybody have any suggestions on land that i can shoot over,

 

its getting very hard for the new guys to get land to shoot on.

 

im in the n/east area, northumberland

all advice and suggestions greatly received

 

ive been looking for the past 12 months and so far ZILCH

[Lord Geordie]

Hi there to all out there,

 

does anybody have any suggestions on land that i can shoot over,

 

its getting very hard for the new guys to get land to shoot on.

 

im in the n/east area, northumberland

all advice and suggestions greatly received

 

ive been looking for the past 12 months and so far ZILCH

 

 

I tried ALL the normal routes with calling to the farms in person smartly dressed (no camo) i tried letters phone calls etc you name it and over 4 years i STILL have nothing.

 

All i can say is i STILL haven't gave in i still try when pigeon season starts but it's getting more and more toward the PAYING to join a Pest rid or the NPPC.

 

Now with this new 2007 palava of IF a farmer lets someone on his land and they shoot game out of season HE may lose his subsidies from the Government

 

That will do NOTHING but close the doors for people looking for land for the first time and make a lot more farmers more reluctant to let anyone on their land

 

So you really need to get out and try now before this new legislation comes into force

 

It got so bad i joined a shooting club just so i could get out with the air rifle granted it's knock over targets but it's better than sitting at home twiddling my thumbs and it's honing my skills also.

 

I am 35 ex forces no criminal record not so much as a point on my licence and it's STILL grim

 

Just don't give in is the best info i can offer.

 

LG

[Topgunners]

Hi there to all out there,

 

does anybody have any suggestions on land that i can shoot over,

 

its getting very hard for the new guys to get land to shoot on.

 

im in the n/east area, northumberland

all advice and suggestions greatly received

 

ive been looking for the past 12 months and so far ZILCH

 

 

I tried ALL the normal routes with calling to the farms in person smartly dressed (no camo) i tried letters phone calls etc you name it and over 4 years i STILL have nothing.

 

All i can say is i STILL haven't gave in i still try when pigeon season starts but it's getting more and more toward the PAYING to join a Pest rid or the NPPC.

 

Now with this new 2007 palava of IF a farmer lets someone on his land and they shoot game out of season HE may lose his subsidies from the Government

 

That will do NOTHING but close the doors for people looking for land for the first time and make a lot more farmers more reluctant to let anyone on their land

 

So you really need to get out and try now before this new legislation comes into force

 

It got so bad i joined a shooting club just so i could get out with the air rifle granted it's knock over targets but it's better than sitting at home twiddling my thumbs and it's honing my skills also.

 

I am 35 ex forces no criminal record not so much as a point on my licence and it's STILL grim

 

Just don't give in is the best info i can offer.

 

LG

 

You have PM

 

Dave K

[codling99]

well mate,depends on what guns you have and what you intend on shooting,me personally ,drive round in me jeep,knock doors ,in me green army trousers,and palin t shirt ,camo jacket and guns in boot ,just in case,and ask is there any chance of permission to do a bit of shooting.if they ask what you wanna shoot ,i say whatever you want me to .if they got sheep,good chance theyhave trouble with foxes,if they got crops,good chance they having trouble with crows or pigeons.if you drive around an see freshly sown fields,with crows/pigeons all over it,stop and ask if they need any help with them.i never dress smartly to go looking for farms ,personally i think it look more realistic ,whenyou turn up looking like a good hunter,with your wellies and camo jacket in jeep ,than turning up all smart ,they proably thinking ,his he safe with gun.only my opinion mind,works for me in wales anyways,got at least 10 farms allready this year ,some for .22,some for .222,and some for 12 bore for crows.hope this helps in some way

but keep trying mate,sooner or later someone will say yes.especilly for birds,when they hammerig their crops,and your there with a gun.

[Lord Geordie]

There you go!

 

What did i tell you

 

Today i called at a farm and was given a few fields to shoot over granted it's NOT a lot but it's a start

 

If i make a good impression i MAY get a few more from neighbouring farmers if they see i am doing a good job

 

I am looking forward to getting back up there next week sometime. It's onl;y about 17 miles from my house too

 

LG

[pin]

 

Thoroughly deserved that man! I know you have been waiting patiently for a long time, I am made up for you mate!

 

I am sure you are only a few weeks away from a load more too

[markbivvy]

There you go!

 

What did i tell you

 

Today i called at a farm and was given a few fields to shoot over granted it's NOT a lot but it's a start

 

If i make a good impression i MAY get a few more from neighbouring farmers if they see i am doing a good job

 

I am looking forward to getting back up there next week sometime. It's onl;y about 17 miles from my house too

 

LG

good do M. pleased for you mate :blink:

[dazzyboi]

Hi there to all out there,

 

does anybody have any suggestions on land that i can shoot over,

 

its getting very hard for the new guys to get land to shoot on.

 

im in the n/east area, northumberland

all advice and suggestions greatly received

 

ive been looking for the past 12 months and so far ZILCH

 

 

I tried ALL the normal routes with calling to the farms in person smartly dressed (no camo) i tried letters phone calls etc you name it and over 4 years i STILL have nothing.

 

All i can say is i STILL haven't gave in i still try when pigeon season starts but it's getting more and more toward the PAYING to join a Pest rid or the NPPC.

 

Now with this new 2007 palava of IF a farmer lets someone on his land and they shoot game out of season HE may lose his subsidies from the Government

 

That will do NOTHING but close the doors for people looking for land for the first time and make a lot more farmers more reluctant to let anyone on their land

 

So you really need to get out and try now before this new legislation comes into force :blink:

 

It got so bad i joined a shooting club just so i could get out with the air rifle granted it's knock over targets but it's better than sitting at home twiddling my thumbs and it's honing my skills also.

 

I am 35 ex forces no criminal record not so much as a point on my licence and it's STILL grim

 

Just don't give in is the best info i can offer.

 

LG

 

 

4+ years!! jesus lad, im 22, didnt have no previous land, and i secured 500 acres over 2 farms in 2 weeks of looking in only a small % of the surrounding area i live in.

[Lord Geordie]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits :blink:

 

LG

[dazzyboi]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits

 

 

LG

 

I see, one thing that questions me though, is that if that is infact the case, shouldnt you be rolling in it, LORD G??

 

haha, joking aside, i feel for you, where do you take your shotgun to give it a good bashing then? down the clay grounds?

 

Im quite lucky i aqquired some land before i got my shotty actually, would have eaten me alive not being able to take it out properly.

[taffygun]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce B)

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits

 

LG

 

LG - No offence intended here m8 but looking at your sig... you have an arsenal there that would make Osama himself a bit nervous of shopping in Newcastle.......I would have thought you'd have your pick and refusal of land up that way. (sorry my geography has a lot to be desired) but how far are you away from say Penrith area of Cumbria...?

 

Reason I say M8, is a very good friend of mine lives and shoots up around that way and he tells me that farmers are eager to let people shoot over their land because not as many people go anymore....

[justme]

I think you just have to be in the right place at the right time & mix in the right circles. I was picking up some ducks (alive for eggs) localy & the subject of rabbits came up & 20 seconds later I have permision to shoot them when I want (we just call to let em know I will be there). This is great for me as my land (28 acres inc 2 acre woodland) has NO rabbits on it. Just need to sort a cheap lamping kit now (any offers). I am only going to be shooting them with an airgin but they were happy for me to use what I want.

 

 

Justme

[hawkeye]

I think you just have to be in the right place at the right time & mix in the right circles. I was picking up some ducks (alive for eggs) localy & the subject of rabbits came up & 20 seconds later I have permision to shoot them when I want (we just call to let em know I will be there). This is great for me as my land (28 acres inc 2 acre woodland) has NO rabbits on it. Just need to sort a cheap lamping kit now (any offers). I am only going to be shooting them with an airgin but they were happy for me to use what I want.

 

 

Justme

 

 

 

Got a cheap gun lamp for sale if you are interested used to use it on my airrifle for rabbits £60 posted cost about £120+ new..

 

http://www.nite-hunter.com/supalite.php

[Lord Geordie]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's B) )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits

 

LG

 

LG - No offence intended here m8 but looking at your sig... you have an arsenal there that would make Osama himself a bit nervous of shopping in Newcastle.......I would have thought you'd have your pick and refusal of land up that way. (sorry my geography has a lot to be desired) but how far are you away from say Penrith area of Cumbria...?

 

Reason I say M8, is a very good friend of mine lives and shoots up around that way and he tells me that farmers are eager to let people shoot over their land because not as many people go anymore....

 

Penrith is about 55 miles from my house a good hour and a quarter across the A69.

 

Trouble is i live on my own with a 10 year old Son so i have to be back in time for School chucking out time

 

By the time i get over there and set up i would be lucky to get 2 and 1/2 hours shooting in

 

Then i would have to pack up and get my *** home for the young lad.

 

I am afraid weekends are pretty much taken up finding things to do for the lad also it's not easy being a single dad

 

LG

[dazzyboi]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits

 

LG

 

LG - No offence intended here m8 but looking at your sig... you have an arsenal there that would make Osama himself a bit nervous of shopping in Newcastle.......I would have thought you'd have your pick and refusal of land up that way. (sorry my geography has a lot to be desired) but how far are you away from say Penrith area of Cumbria...?

 

Reason I say M8, is a very good friend of mine lives and shoots up around that way and he tells me that farmers are eager to let people shoot over their land because not as many people go anymore....

 

Penrith is about 55 miles from my house a good hour and a quarter across the A69.

 

Trouble is i live on my own with a 10 year old Son so i have to be back in time for School chucking out time

 

By the time i get over there and set up i would be lucky to get 2 and 1/2 hours shooting in

 

Then i would have to pack up and get my *** home for the young lad.

 

I am afraid weekends are pretty much taken up finding things to do for the lad also it's not easy being a single dad

 

LG

 

How old is your lad?

 

Why not introduce him to the sport if he's not too young

 

Im sure if he's not too young, and are bustin ya balls on the weekend trying to entertain him, why not kill 2 birds with one stone...so to speak B)

 

Edit: Just seen he is 10 years old

[Troosers Too]

I am 35 ex forces no criminal record not so much as a point on my licence and it's STILL grim

 

Just don't give in is the best info i can offer.

 

LG

 

There's your problem. Respectable, working, ex forces Brit.

 

Dress up as a 1 legged Romanian transvetite & they won't be able to refuse you without getting hauled into court for infringing your human rights.

 

Cheers

TT

[Dave 101]

Hi Guys

This is my first entry on this site , I have been shooting on and off for over twenty years now . I started out helping a game keeper , so I got involved in beating at several farms , from there I was allowed to do some rough shooting , vermin control etc . But then I moved changed jobs , sadly my friend died of cancer at 56 , and I lost contact with all the shoots I had . Then I drifted in and out of various shooting sports , the last few years I have been doing a lot of target shooting , now I want to get back into some pigeon / vermin shooting , and like a lot of others Iam not finding it easy . Iam going to join the BASC , I would like to find some land to shoot over , I live in Chelmsford Essex . so if any one can help it would be appreciated . Also I would like to assist someone to gain and refresh my knowledge . I expect you may here this a lot but if you dont ask then no one knows . Thanks for reading this , and a happy new year to you all . Dave

[jerico]

Hi Dave, Pete's airgun farm is not far from you http://www.airgunfarm.co.uk/, its on the A414 heading towards Harlow.

Its £20 for the first visit and then £10 a day thereafter, you get the use of a 55 yard indoor range, an outdoor range and 500 acres of farmland.

 

For range use only after 1730 its £5.

 

 

For those of us without permission its a godsend.

[Dave 101]

Thanks for the info Dave

Hi Dave, Pete's airgun farm is not far from you http://www.airgunfarm.co.uk/, its on the A414 heading towards Harlow.

Its £20 for the first visit and then £10 a day thereafter, you get the use of a 55 yard indoor range, an outdoor range and 500 acres of farmland.

 

For range use only after 1730 its £5.

 

 

For those of us without permission its a godsend.

[Paul in North Lincs.]

I have tended to find that when one door opens, several more will open in quick succession.

 

I cleared off the spain for 3 years and when I returned I found that the shooting that I had ammassed had been allocated to someone else. Names dropping has been most productive for me, and now we have over 4,000 acres all in all to shoot over locally, soley under the guise of vermin control..

 

Is seems hard to get get a good name...but very easy to have one clouded...

 

I am a commercial property surveyor by trade so I have asked for permission whilst out and about in a shirt and tie..........................as old fasioned as it sounds, good manners and smart apprearance and the occasional bottle of wine or whisky still goes along way, especially when dealing with landowners of the older generations

[Guest jonrms]

I have tended to find that when one door opens, several more will open in quick succession.

 

I cleared off the spain for 3 years and when I returned I found that the shooting that I had ammassed had been allocated to someone else. Names dropping has been most productive for me, and now we have over 4,000 acres all in all to shoot over locally, soley under the guise of vermin control..

 

Is seems hard to get get a good name...but very easy to have one clouded...

 

I am a commercial property surveyor by trade so I have asked for permission whilst out and about in a shirt and tie..........................as old fasioned as it sounds, good manners and smart apprearance and the occasional bottle of wine or whisky still goes along way, especially when dealing with landowners of the older generations

 

 

I completly agree!!!! you have to work hard to get a good reputation... and stick at it.. ie following ALL there rules!!! dont be a idiot. be polite, helpfull if you can, after all its like they are giving you a room in there house!!! ie you can use there land..... for your pleasure... and to help assist them.

[mossy835]

Hi there to all out there,

 

does anybody have any suggestions on land that i can shoot over,

 

its getting very hard for the new guys to get land to shoot on.

 

im in the n/east area, northumberland

all advice and suggestions greatly received

 

ive been looking for the past 12 months and so far ZILCH

 

come down here i can get you some, lots here.

[starlight32]

I think the NPPC club you lads have up in the North of england is an excellent way of finding shooting permission. I know there is a fee of £150.00 but is that a lot of money these days to be able to shoot a load of land whenever you want. I don't think so- do you?

I tell you what -if a club like that ever started up down here in East Anglia it would be inundated with people wanting to join.

I have one policy for people wanting pigeon shooting, make yourself available during the week! Most pigeon shooters are weekenders. You will find adifferent approach from landowners I assure you if you can do this.

I know this is difficult as we all have to earn a living but sometimes if you really want to gain permission sacrafices have to be made.

Secondly, you will always find new permissions hard to come by during game season. Most land either rented to a syndicate or a private shoot do-not want pigeon shooters about when season is in.

 

I am quite fortunate that on all my permissions crop damage from pigeons come higher on the list than concern over disturbance of game birds or the wanten prevention of vermin control by awkward shoot captains.

 

ALWAYS REMEMBER THE GOLDEN RULE- ONCE YOU ARE IN YOU ARE IN BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

[straightshooter1]

Trouble WE have up north is most the land belongs to LORDS here not the farmers the Farmers are tennants so in order to get shooting rights can be a pain in the ***.

 

Really the best bet here is to get to know the keeper offer beating etc for some vermin work but it's STILL scarce

 

Northumberland (Newcastle up to the scottish borders) is Estate land mainly hence the hardship finding places to shoot as there are a lot of Syndicates who have sole shooting and lots of estate shoots (keeperd land) who don't like just giving shooting to a stranger.

 

Middlesbrough sunderland etc down over is generally all Farmers land.

 

When i lived in Beadnell i had a shoot in Alnwick on a farm (air rifles only) but when i moved back to Newcastle i lost it

 

Anyway like i say i now seem to have a place to go (unless the guy has alzheimer's )

 

 

all good things come to he who waits

 

LG

 

LG - No offence intended here m8 but looking at your sig... you have an arsenal there that would make Osama himself a bit nervous of shopping in Newcastle.......I would have thought you'd have your pick and refusal of land up that way. (sorry my geography has a lot to be desired) but how far are you away from say Penrith area of Cumbria...?

 

Reason I say M8, is a very good friend of mine lives and shoots up around that way and he tells me that farmers are eager to let people shoot over their land because not as many people go anymore....

 

well hi there I live in Cumbria and if your mate has land around cumbria or knows of any farmers who would like some help with vermin control please get him to contact me

[highseas]

me to i get calles of farmers all the time now i can walk from sallerfield to whitehaven (about11miles) and have shooting almost all the way all i can say is make a good name for your self and it wil come to you when we stop off at a farm now they always say are you the lad that shoots on such and suches land and hey presto