Harnser Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Lots fo posts on here about the effect of recoil from certain loads . Some think the .270 and the .308 kick like a mule . I must be as thick as it gets as I do not think these calibres kick at all. although they both bark a bit. Some wont shoot over 28 grams in a shot gun because of the excessive recoil ,again I will shoot any load and not bother at all with recoil . The worst effect of recoil I have experienced was shooting full house loads through my .44 magnum pistol ,now they were hand stingers . Still ,as my dear old mother used to say "were theres no sense theres no feeling " I think we are turning into a bunch of woos es . Harnser . Edited June 18, 2013 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Got to admit I'm with you , can't feel the difference between 28 or 32s etc never been a issue for me but I'm used to lumping scaffold around all day banging it around my shoulders as you say no sense no feeling :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULT Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Spend more time concentrating on target than on recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 my mate bought a baikal for £25 quid in the late eighties brand new from hes mate who had never fired it so off we went down the farm and i was the guinypig i fired a 32g 6 shoot baikal cart and the felt recoil put me on my ar** as both barrels went off at once gave me a black eye no body else had the ba88s to fire it that would have been 1987 never fired a baikal since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Over the years I've shot an awful lot of different weapons, if your hold is good it shouldn't hurt you. The 4 bore was a bit of a beast for clays though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 The worst bang I got was a double discharge from my friends double 4 when out shooting geese, I wasn't right for days after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Gun mount/hold, experience and gun fit, all you need to know. No point in being a big man and 'taking the pain' if your mount is so crud you're missing targets. When I very first started shooting clays I nearly gave it up, did 100 sporting with the lightest 12 bore ever, a terrible mount, and Kent Velocity. It hurt. With the right gun, technique and experience you ought to be able to bang on all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 If anyone has an issue with a 270, 308 or shotgun loads they should run a few rnds through a light weight 375 H&H double hunting rifle. The former weapons are guaranteed to feel like air guns after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Recoil? 7.62x54r heavy ball ammunition (machine gun rounds) fired through my Mosin Nagant.They rattle fillings out of your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Never understood the fuss about the .270, or the .308 for that matter. My old Parker Hale .308 was a horrible thing to shoot, admittedly, but only because at the end of its days it was a rattly old dog with a worn out throat, a cut down barrel and no moderator. The Tikka m595 I've got now (unmoderated) is a pussy cat, and I shoot heavier loads with it. Much depends on the condition and fit of the gun. A mate has a .338 win mag and that is a bit snappy with some of his snorty loads. (That's unmoderated as well). It can sting a bit after a couple of hours on the range, but it doesn't exactly knock you off your feet. Low pressure dangerous game loads aren't too bad either. High pressure varieties like the .378 Weatherby mag are spiteful though. (80 ft/lb of recoil as opposed to 12 ft/lb with a .308). As for shotguns - what recoil? If a shotgun is hurting you, you're holding it wrong or it doesn't fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Everybody. And just like noise and deafness, the effect is cumulative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I've found the .270 snappy in a light rifle too, I'm not a fan. Recoil varies a lot though and I found my .375H&H quite reasonable to shoot. My .338 Win Mag, well I had to give up on that before I'd got the sights set up completely as I was flinching them. In the field it's fine but on the range half a dozen shots and I've had enough of it. I have a fairly high pain tolerance and my shoulders take a bashing at work, but pain is pain and at the end of the day it's not nice. I find fast recoil like the .300 Win Mag and .270 bothers me far more than slow thumps from heavier cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 Im new to shooting, and not exactly the biggest built person. When shooting 200+ 28gms carts. Shoulder does gradually start to hurt after 8 to 10 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sx3 clay breaker Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 It's all the same if you shoot at quarry you won't feel but if you shoot them cold ie not at anything they kick like a mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I find fast recoil like the .300 Win Mag and .270 bothers me far more than slow thumps from heavier cartridges. Yep. A .416 Rigby is a shove. A .338 Win Mag is a punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace_of_hearts Posted June 20, 2013 Report Share Posted June 20, 2013 I hadnt been clay shooting for 7 months until yesterday, and 50 shots through my SxS was enough and i will admit i was a bit tender afterwoulds. Pigeon shooting i am fine with it, but with the clays just shooting one after the other and only wearing a t-shirt definitely got to me. I can definitely feel the difference shooting 32's through it aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFC Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 I bought a 26" Bettinsoli game gun. It was very light and ideal to use in a hide. However, when I used it on 100 sporting clays then, after about 50 clays, my head would be spinning and I started getting trigger freeze. I tried 21g carts and it helped but still wasn't completely comfortable. I changed it for a semi-auto with inertia action and it solved the problem. I use a SxS with 30-30g loads for game shooting without a problem. Shooting game and clays is different of course. Clays tend to be continuous shooting and game is more intermittent. I would suggest to anyone suffering recoil problems, use a heavy gun. It will absorb some of the recoil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Perhaps why a lot of semi autos are used for pigeon shooting and clays, using the 'punch' to good effect. I fire 3 1/2 magnum 65 grams through mine and that rocks a bit. I agree with many above that how you hold the weapon at the point of pulling the trigger is key. If the recoil is directly into you, via a hard contact, its no problem but if you hold loose or slack it can be painful with a number of heavier loads. I had a 20 bore beretta game gun once with 30 inch barrels and even with the smallest loads it kicked badly - wasnt fit but a light gun and a smaller area of stock on the shoulder. I suspect the head ringing is from excessive noise and not recoil - get a semi and enjoy it again but wear the electronic ear defenders ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 Having reffed three days of the Jack Pyke Open at Sporting Targets last week. I found it interesting just how many shooters placed the gun stock against either their arm or the front of the shoulder rather than the natural pocket approximately four inches in from the outside edge of the arm. I suspect there was quite a lot of bruising after shooting 120 testing targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashgun Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 hiya, i have got a 682 gold e i havent had it long and i had it fitted , on friday i shot 200 clays and my shoulder hurts to say the least would you say it does not fit properly or my mount isnt right. i am considering putting a kick eez pad on it has anyone got any views on these, cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 hiya, i have got a 682 gold e i havent had it long and i had it fitted , on friday i shot 200 clays and my shoulder hurts to say the least would you say it does not fit properly or my mount isnt right. i am considering putting a kick eez pad on it has anyone got any views on these, cheers Do you regularly shoot 200 clays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashgun Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 no i dont its a bit extreme i know but i shot with 4 others and they didnt have a problem with recoil, but they are fatter than me i suppose that would make a difference, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeker Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 .... i had it fitted .... Take it to whoever did the fitting and get it checked ... a Kickeeze will put weight on the end so altering the balance. .... becomes a compromise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Do you regularly shoot 200 clays? not far off, i did go through a time when i wasnt shooting for 4-5 weeks, then i "make up" for the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I use a SP1 28" barrels, 13 and 1/3 stock - I'm 5 foot and not skinny but not big. I have regularly shot 200 in one day and in an extreme shot 550 cartridges at South Wales 2000 (husband shooting OT registered and left me alone to play on my own!) I use 21gm and 24 gm - absolutely no recoil, no problems whatsoever even the day of the 550 cartridges but if I have to use 28gm which I avoid like the plague but needs must occasionally I feel it and I don't like it - it's not painful it's just really tiring and annoying and I am sure it makes my head hurt a bit afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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